But these are facts one simply knows by reading ancient history,
anthropology, and archaeology.

The notion of art in our sense was quite absent in most cultures of
the past - including Western culture prior to the Renaissance. What
sense would notions such as 'line of ownership' etc have in cultures
such as those? In quite a number of them even the idea of preservation
was unimportant.

This requires reading a bit of history beyond Europe since 1500. I
realize many theorists of art are reluctant to do so. But since the
contents of today's art museums tend to go a little beyond this time
frame and geographical frame (!!) it seems a good idea, don't you
think?

Do you ever read any ancient history, anthropology, and archaeology?

DA


On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Saul Ostrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you substantiate this in some manner that goes beyond your empirical
> understanding - of your present analysis which seems to lack any real
> cogent perspective - for the most part you seem to want to reduce this to a
> he says she says arguement
> Chair, Visual Arts and Technologies
> The Cleveland Institute of Art
>
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>
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>> From: Derek Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:10:55 +1000
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Presence
>>
>> This is so hopelessly shaky historically speaking. For vast stretches
>> of history and for large numbers of objects we now regard as art, the
>> question of 'line of ownership' was entirely irrelevant. Ditto the
>> notion of 'exhibition.'   The statues at Chartres were not on
>> 'exhibition', or Buddhist sculpture or so much else. That is Western
>> post-Renaissance thinking.  Authenticity?? The very notion would not
>> have made sense.  Ditto a million times over for 'cultural value'.
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