Nagging issues ? Ok. What is an object? Something external to me? Is the violin I visualize while walking in the street an object - or the characters of my next novel? And then, are we talking direct realism or indirect realism? What is an object, and what kind of relations do we entertain with those objects?
Best, Luc www.lucdelannoy.com www.neuroartes.com --- On Mon, 8/25/08, William Conger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: William Conger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: "Meaning" is always in a mind, never in an object."That > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:54 PM > Everyone can agree with Cheerskep on the fine point of > subjectivity but there're still nagging issues. Some > philosophers, (Archie Bahm) say that aesthetics is a science > because it deals with values that everyone experiences to > some degree that therefore can be tested. He claims 4 types > of values separating them from all the popular uses. He > says what values have in common is their intrinsic nature. > By intrinsic he means that to thinks about the term value is > to already accept that it exists; that it can't be > undefined. He also, importantly, to me, claims that we > cannot help but project our value sensations to objects > outside of ourselves. Thus there is a subjective-objective > interplay, exchange. He likens this to the notion of > Nirvanna where all (subjective and objective is one). At > any rate, the intuitive -- impossible to deny-- projection > of sensations and therefore meaning is an important concern. > It's what we acknowledge when we say something > is beautiful. Thus while Cheerskep is right in an > analytical way, his point is moot because we can't stand > aside from what is intrinsic to us, that is to say, > intuitive projection. > WC
