On Sep 10, 2008, at 12:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Many listers pay lip-service to this argument -- "Well, of course, everyone knows that, that's a dead horse" etc -- and in the next breath use the word 'art' in a way that betrays that they DO believe each object either IS or ISN'T "art", and either HAS or HAS NOT a never-defined (chimerical) quality/essence, "artness".

Isn't <g> that just another way of saying, "Can YYY be predicated on XXX?"

Seriously: I believe that in most statements--including technical, philosophic, or erudite discourse--when the speaker says, "XXX is YYY" (e.g., "That is art"), such a statement is <g> exactly equivalent to "That thing exhibits characteristics that are called 'art.'"

  Painting by Jones         is         art

        conforms exactly with

Painting by Jones shows qualities previously identified (or defined) as artistic Painting by Jones participates in a dialogue about artistic qualities or characteristics
  Art qualities     are predicated on  painting by Jones

This form can be mapped onto other utterances:

  Yves's Happenings        is          art
  Yves's Happenings      shows         art qualities
  Yves's Happenings  participates in   art discourse
  Art qualities    are predicated on   Yves's Happenings


At some point, Cheerskep, our discussions must get beyond the diversion caused by using a copulative versus a predicating verb.


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Michael Brady
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