In a message dated 9/26/08 2:42:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> some classes and signs will be found as
> originating or existing outside the mind
> 
Frances -- As I've noted several times before, we can't usefully address your 
pragmatist statements if we don't have a serviceably clear idea of what you 
have in mind with your Peircean terms. You have conveyed before that you wanted 
only to use the forum as a permanent public archive for your own thoughts, 
and not as a means of educating non-scholars of Peirce. It's a position I 
accept, but personally don't approve of much. 

As you may remember, I expressed admiration for Peirce's early essays, so I'm 
not an immovable nay-sayer about his teachings, but I cannot boast I know 
what he or you have in mind with the words 'sign' or 'class'. In my view, 
beginning with Plato the notion of 'class' has been a fuzzy one, and beginning 
with 
Frege notions of 'sign' and 'signifying' have been downright wrong.   But maybe 
your notion of sign is different. Won't you try to "define" your idea of it?



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