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WC --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: The Kitsch Test > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:06 AM > Well - yes -- being the sensitive, insecure artistes that > they are, Nerdrum > and Tuv constructed a questionnaire where the default value > (the one that > requires no consent) puts the test-taker firmly on their > side (the "kitsch" > side) of the culture wars. > > And if you reversed each question -- asking, for example, > "Do you prefer > talent and sensuality to truth" instead of "Do > you prefer truth to talent and > sensuality?" -- the test-taker would be identified > with their perceived > opponents. > > But the issues raised in most of the questions seem to be > ones often raised > here and in other forums where art is discussed. (or if > they're not -- they > should be. And many can also be found in this famous essay: > > http://www.sharecom.ca/greenberg/kitsch.html > > > > For a further discussion of "kitsch" - look up > the Wikipedia entry - which was > apparently written by one of Nerdrum's fellow > travelers. > > It's interesting how the Wikipedia community initially > recognized it as > superior -- but later rescinded that judgment with the > following explanation: > > "is filled with weasle words and what appears to be > original research, > editorializing, and opinion." > > ************ > > > > What a terrible, terrible test. Bourdieu once said that > the problem with > questionnaires is that they tend to produce dichotomies and > opinion in > theabsence of any actual dichotomy or opinion. This test > is polemical in > precisely this regard: its very language is weighted > against 'modernism' and > based on a misreading of the individuals mentioned at the > bottom. Given the > wording and mistaken presuppositions of the questions > (above all that > modernism = exclusively pop-art/postmodern pastiche, i.e. > purely conceptual > art), it strikes me as almost impossible not to answer > 'no' to most of the > questions. Boooo for this test. It shows nothing, save how > to manufacture > opinion by presenting straw-characterizations in > sound-bites. > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Chris Miller <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > I've just taken the kitsch test compiled by Odd > Nerdrum and friend: > > > > > http://janovetuv.com/bruker/articles/Questionnaire_E%2044-45.pdf > > > > > > And passed it with flying colors! (not 100% -- but > close) > > > > However, I do wonder about the testers' claim that > now I am a real > > kitsch-person (as opposed to a true artist) according > to: > > > > Broch, Calinescu, Greenberg, Kulka, Kundera, Ortega y > Gasset > > > > Can anyone confirm or dispute that ? > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Click to become an artist and quit your boring job. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/Ioyw6ijmKf63BuB8wqFfDSDlT7MlLA > frANMquvMKJmv25JW2scwHIY/
