In a message dated 10/17/08 11:08:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> If there was ever a word that belongs at the top of Cheerskep's list of the
> most clumsy tools to guarantee thick muddiness of notions, it's talent.
>
> Talent is surely one word we could do without. 
>
Still, there are some "nice" distinctions that might be made. For example, I
can imagine someone having different notions for "talent" and for "gift". To
hell with the particular words, let's just momentarily bear with ones we have
while I ask: Could you conjure notions that would make sense of a line like
this?: "A gift is inherent. Talent is broader; it's the ability to apply the
gift."

It may be the implied distinction there is bogus (I haven't thought this
through). In show biz, producers talk of XXX's great looks as a gift, but add
that
she has no talent for acting. You may say, no, the ability to act is as much
a gift as good looks. The good-looking good actor simply has two gifts.

The coach/trainer may know "how" something should be done, but not himself
have the "gifts" required to do it?

Someone might think of a "gift" as somethng that arrives full-blown, as
distingusihed from a "skill" which requires a gift plus "learning" of some
kind.

>From my great distance I'd judge you (and my movie-director son) have a
visualizing gift that I lack almost totally. But you also have a talent to
execute
your vision that I also don't have. Again, though, you may see them as two
different gifts.

(Lest I seem too gloomily self-deprecating, I'll admit I know you envy me my
personal charm.)

Any thoughts?



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