Chris: That would be Lehrer's claim. My little knowledge of logic suggests that it is an argument by authority and I'm not clear that Lehrer is an authority that I would necessarily respect and the argument requires other grounds for proof in any case. If the debate is whether artists of earlier times contributed less than modern artists to science, a conclusion might be reached on one or the other side being most heuristic but it wouldn't be concluded on scientific grounds. The conclusion might be about science, the method wouldn't be scientific. I don't know anything about the subjection of the humanities to the sciences, as a social scientist. In fact, in my discipline at least one prominent colleague has argued that no one should enter clinical psychology specialization without an undergraduate education in the liberal arts (literature, e.g. rather than psychology). It does not follow for me that, were a contribution to have been made, that it follows that all must honour that contribution and view it as more important than some other contribution. Is the Salk vaccine less important than gene splicing or a poem by Robert Frost? Further, to the extent that popular appeal means something/anything, it's art of the past that is appreciated/liked/understood by more people. (I'm struggling to understand a comment that I heard recently that modern art subverts art.) What you refer to as pathetic is the conclusion advocated by a journalist (or person(s) ). His/their opinion(s) may be lamentable, but your own is not negated.
Geoff C

From: "Chris Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Scientific View
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:15:05 GMT

"I just don't see how a methodology which is supposedly value-free can
pronounce on the value of artifacts."


Some artifacts serve as  better scientific evidence  than others -- that's
how.

So an archaic torso of Apollo might be worthless to an archaeologist, even if
it inspires a poet  to write "You must change your life"

The subjugation of the humanities to the sciences is an old story of the 20th
Century -- and yet it continues full-steam -- as we find a new, popular
journalist, like Lehrer, proclaiming that the canonical artists of modernism really did make important contributions to science. (so now we can admire them
even more!)

It's so pathetic.

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