Leonardo's words re mentoring:  "He is a poor student who does not improve upon 
his master."
WC


--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Improving taste
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 8:09 AM
> If a word goes back to Homer -- I am happy to concede that
> Homer made the
> proper usage of it then, now, and forever.
> 
> But the topic under discussion here is "improving
> taste" -- and it's my
> assertion that mentorship -- or -- OK --- a certain kind of
> mentorship -- has
> been very important in some of the arts.
> 
> But only for some of them.
> 
> For example -- it appears to be rather marginal to the
> practice of modern
> abstract painting -- where a recognized master, like
> William, may or may not
> have had mentors (it depends upon what day we ask him). So
> it's not really
> that important - he certainly does not claim to have
> mentored anyone else -
> and it's strongly opposed by the ideology of Modernism,
> isn't it ? If art is
> always supposed to be changing with the times, what's
> the point of mentoring ?
> What's the point of taste ? (and  - to be honest --
> what's the point of an art
> school?) Mentoring and taste are just old-timey ideas that
> must be abandoned
> by progressive thinkers.
> 
> While in Japanese ceramics -- actually, in any Japanese art
> -- it's considered
> essential -- just as it is in the performance of European
> classical music and
> the revival of Classical Realist painting.
> 
> It was probably also essential in those arts where we
> recognize a shared
> standard of taste -- as among all the sculptors who worked
> at Chartres or
> Khajuraho.
> 
> We can't say that mentoring is required for high
> achievement in the arts
> because there are notable exceptions -- like Manzu, the
> great Renaissance
> sculptor of the 20th C.   His only teacher appears to have
> been himself.  But
> since mentoring meant nothing to him -- even though he
> taught at art academies
> for many decades -- his style died with him, and I've
> yet to find anyone who
> claims him as a teacher.
> 
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> I guess that's one way to use "mentor," and
> your way can be just as good as
> anyone else's, including the established
> "meaning" (sorry, Cheeerskep).
> 
> Mentor was the wise older man whom Odysseus ask to guide
> and protect his son,
> Telemachus, when Odysseuys left his family in Ithaca to
> fight in the Trojan
> war. The term is now used to designate a trusted friend and
> counselor.
> 
> You make a mentor sound like a drill sergeant picking out
> the best of the
> recruits, or a teacher choosing a star pupil.
> 
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