> I agree with that last line. In the book I say rule number one is, if the
> novel is well, don't go near it with these diagnostic tools I've just given.
> No
> editorial diagnostic tool, no "rule book" guide, can prove a novel must be
> ill.
> But if sensibility tells you it IS ill, saying why isn't always as easy as 
> it
> seems.
> 
> Now, accepting that, you've never looked at a WOA and felt it was "wrong" 
> and
> were sure you could see why? Behind this activity you'd have to have a
> description of what you have in mind with the word 'wrong'. Editorially, you
> could
> reasonably call something "wrong" if you can discern it is having an effect
> that you know the writer does not want, and you'd have to be convinced it
> would
> have that effect not just on you but on the almost all the writer's "ideal
> intended readers". If the writer's chooses, knowingly, to alienate all his
> readers, then you the editor can choose, knowingly, not to publish his book 
> if
> you
> want. You might still call him "wrong", but not because he has made a 
> mistake
> in
> his writing, only in his reputation.
> 
> I don't know if intent   is part of "wrong" in visual things. I can see 
> things "wrong",sometimes they are missed opportunities and I just have to 
> assume 
> that the painter didn't want that particular gleam or shadow even if it would 
> have worked better. Also one person's right is another person's so what. A 
> lot of people like Bougereau very much but in a general sort of way I don't 
> care   even though I can see how good he is. And the feel of something comes 
> into it too-I can't stand Kathe Kollewitz, I see her as lugubriously 
> sentimental and polemic while others see her as powerful and deeply felt.   I 
> like 
> Adolph Menzel a lot-not the history things but the Berlin scenes and the 
> drawings. For me they really hit it and in that case if I saw something I 
> thought was 
> "wrong" or felt he'd wasted an opportunity I would think about it   
> seriously where I wouldn't with Kollewitz or Bougereau. And there's always 
> the 
> feeling of extreme cynicism when someone says   look at the "famous name 
> here" in a 
> museum, and one thinks no, it can't be, and you walk over, read the name, 
> and it isn't.   All this is aside from issues of drawing or color or clumsy 
> paint handling,examples of which can be found in nearly everything and which 
> are 
>   almost always egregious nitpicking. I think the most obvious "wrong" is 
> when you get a good painter and,usually late in his career,he gets serious 
> about Art, and starts making what he considers Art. Off hand,Corot did some 
> stuff 
> like that,Turner did,Constable. Watson and   the Shark   is one of the 
> funniest examples of making Art.
> KAte Sullivan
> 
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