Yes.

WC


--- On Mon, 2/23/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Definable and measurable truths
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:08 PM
> Damn -- William again gets off another excellent phrasing
> when he says:
> 
> > It's not   my real opinion that anything material
> can literally acquire 
> > subjective attributes. 
> > 
> Once, at a gathering, the very articulate Whistler gave a
> talk and got off a 
> good bit. Wilde, a rival at coming up with prizable
> phrasings, said, "Very 
> good, James, I wish I'd said that." To which
> Whistler replied, "Don't worry, 
> Oscar, you will."
> 
> William goes on:
> 
> >  "most folks expect the artist to embody his work
> with meanings, it's 
> > assumed that artworks should be "unpacked"
> to find those meanings when in fact 
> > it's really a matter of how much of their
> subjectivity can be pretended to be 
> > packed in, as if it really could."
> > 
> My view is that a work (even a word) "occasions"
> notion, in this sense: The 
> the mind of the contemplator , by virtue of his inventory
> of associations with 
> the word, plus his receiving appartus, will, as he
> contemplates, summon up the 
> notions he may call "The meaning for him".
> 
> I now have a website. I recently revised it. On the
> "Home page" I now -- 
> probably inadvisedly -- get very ruminative and say:
> 
> "The original "About the Plays" folder on
> this site had three descriptions of 
> the plays that were almost as facts-only as a police
> blotter. I wrote those 
> descriptions, and they were light on asserting
> "meanings" or "themes", because 
> I think pronouncements like that restrict a work's
> apparent scope, and hobble 
> viewers' imaginations. Talk of its "meaning"
> tends to suggest the play is 
> merely a useful ladder leading up to the real value: a
> non-fiction lesson. The 
> real value of a play or novel or movie for me is in the
> multi-rung ladder itself, 
> the story and its effects at each rung, just as it is in an
> opera or 
> symphony.
> 
> "If the rungs can evoke tensions, laughter, gasps,
> rills of deep assent, a 
> playwright should leave it to the viewers to find their own
> meanings and themes 
> -- and they will be as various as the viewers'
> histories and receiving 
> apparatuses. There is, in the end, no "the"
> meaning of any work of art."
> 
> When William talks of seeking "meanlessness" in
> his works, My reading is not 
> that he doesn't want his audience to think/feel a
> thing. I presume he wants 
> them to feel one hell of a lot.
> 
> > 
> 
> 
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