On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:

You don't know that the tumor has that sort of consciousness. You don't even know much about the consciousness of cockroaches(probably why they make
difficult pets). Isn't consciousness part of this   problem?

My remark was a bit facetious, but the point is valid, if a little bit anthropomorphized: If a thing exists, it was brought into being by a process that included a result, an end state (telos). and the thing was the end state of the process.

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