Somewhere among these comments I pointed out the prudence of knowing what one 
was talking about when judging the work of an artist whose status is so highly 
regarded by so many careful scholars, critics and others, that there are few 
peers to equal him or her.  That should settle the conversation and underscore 
the foolishness of seat-of-the-pants judgments by those who are unqualified to 
make distinctive and persuasive art judgments --- which is different from the 
quality or worth of a personal experience of the work.  Cheerskep is jumping 
well beyond his arena of expertise when he implies that I have a "defective 
sensibility".   That's just another of his crotchety and spiteful remarks when 
it's abundantly clear to anyone who cares to look at the record online or in a 
library, etc.,  that my sensibility is intact and shining brilliantly.  I never 
said that some people are beyond reproach or free from error but I did say, or 
tried to say, that none of
 us here, and few elsewhere, are equipped to decide the merits or faults of 
Titian's works, except to project our own shortcomings.  Besides, I love Titian 
like a father. 

 Delacroix rightly criticized those artists whose weak ambitions where such 
that "...they would not dare to be Rubens".  I criticize those who, 
ill-prepared,  dare to judge Titian.  

The actor Vincent Price, in his late career, decided to become an art critic.  
He wrote for newspapers and magazine and received much praise for his pithy 
remarks.  Too bad that they were among the dumbest comments ever put in print.  
His capstone all-time dumb comment was the time he reviewed a group of 
Pre-Raphaelite painters and concluded with the comment that he couldn't 
understand why they were called Pre-Raphaelites when they came 400 years after 
Raphael.  Some people should stick to B movies and similar pop mush.
WC




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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 9:03:34 AM
Subject: Re: Judging the late Titian

In a message dated 4/3/09 8:23:38 PM, [email protected] writes:


> And huzzah on your arrogant artist's defense of Titian, even those bad 
> late ones. <g>
>
> Michael, you often bring a rewarding, arch, irony to your lines.
Occasionally
this undermines surety about what your own position is, but that can be okay.
For example, it's unsure if you are praising or ridiculing William here.

I don't agree with William when he chastises Mando for daring to deride any
work of Titian's -- as you also dae to do by insinuating Titian had bad late
paintings. As Horace said, "Sometimes even noble Homer nods."   I have
frequent
dinners with a friend who is a Shakespeare scholar. The admiration we feel for
W.S. is such that sometimes all we can do is shake our heads in loving awe.
But we would never think of defending his every line. In truth, I think that
to
condemn any criticism whatever of W.S. -- or Titian -- would be to display a
defective sensibility. But I grant I can't be sure William was being serious
when he rounded on Mando...




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