Miller wrote:

Other than personally attacking me and flattering William,

I did not personally attack you. If I had called you an imbecile or a low criminal or moral blackguard--or even a Democrat--that would be a personal attack. I have not done that. It reveals a lot about your own interpretive prism that you charaterize that my *respect* for William's contributions as flattery (remember, you called me Sancho Panza to his Don Quixote several years ago).

I repudiated your solipsistic logic, your inability to concede that William or others have worthwhile, genuine, and worthy ideas about art, and your constantly assailing scholars, art commentators, and other in the art world. I repudiate your clumsy syntax and grammatical presentation, which make your assertions hard to follow. I repudiate your harangues against received knowledge in Western art by means of Western education (universities, museums, and such) conveyed by Western professors, tainted with some kind of institutional plague. You conveniently ignore any such antipathy to studying from scholars when you refer to Asian works (such as the Hinustani music you recently mentioned) of obscure notoriety in the West.

I also repudiated you plain bad manners in sneering at the work of others, again, mainly those with established credentials.

what have you contributed to this topic, Michael ?

Nothing, because I do not know much about Titian or the Venetian artists, and I was more interested in reading what others with more direct familiarity and knowledge had to say. I chose to follow my humility and listen to others. I frankly don't know enough about the paintings to decide which parts to cut up and protect from the bad parts.

And, might you point to any phrase on this thread where I have "impugned the integrity both of the scholarship and the moral character of scholars, curators, artists, and others who work in the different institutions of art"?

April 6--William is too craven with careerism or other academic ailments to think independently: "While I find William's verbal response problematic because he is so enmeshed in academic authority, he's wary of contradicting it. Indeed, I wonder whether he even allows himself to feel the work of iconic masters without looking over his shoulder at what the respected authorities have written."

I've only gone after "the school boys" -- i.e. those who, rather than share their own experience or introduce us to specific scholars, just present a supposed consensus of scholarly opinion.

Do you not think that art scholars, of Titian and other artists and works, have not actually looked directly at the artifacts and works they discuss? Do you deny or dispute that when Katzenellenbogen or Focillon or Boardman or Shapiro discuss any manuscript illustration or romanesque jamb sculpture, a Greek vase or Abs Ex painting, that they are not "sharing their own experience"? Do you not believe that anyone of us here who comments on any work of art is in fact reporting our own experience, too, even if that experience is influenced or informed by scholarly knowledge?

This is nuts.

Speaking only of my own experience, which I think is pretty universal, I can grasp and see so much more of any work of art when I have learned more about its making and its historical and cultural context. I was never much of a fan of El Greco--too much dark stuff and those elongated figures--until I studied some art history. Then when I saw my first El Greco (in a big show at the National Gallery in the 80s, after many of them had been cleaned), they took my breath away. Gone were my misgivings about the dark, tenebrist palette and noodly anatomy.



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