Perfect. In the case of Wagner, it is interesting to read the texts of the operas and replace them in the context. Actually it seems to me that there is a difference between the lyrics and the music. I mean, is it really the same guy who wrote the famous chord in Tristan & Isold, and hated jews, foreigners etc... Well, that is another topic, I guess. Cheers Luc
www.lucdelannoy.com ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:16:18 PM Subject: Re: Heidegger: truth and art We can challenge anybody for ever. There are no absolute answers for anything. Heidegger had an important question to play with: origin of art, it is not the same, in my understanding, as 'what is art'. I think that he answered that as well as anybody: art is the road to discovery of reality through manipulation of sensible material(techne). Degree of creativity in this manipulation, thanks to the representation of objects (shoes, temples and so on) as symbols plus metaphors separates fine art from craft, though both are 'techne' based. When I deal with art or philosophy I don't care of some prejudices of the person ( Wagner) if I don't detect the agenda in the logic or beauty of the particular work. In this instance I don't detect it, and I am prone to be very sensitive to propaganda. Boris Shoshensky To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Heidegger: truth and art Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:35:52 GMT Saul wrote: >"It is not the explanation that reveals the essence it is the work that art does - the essence is objective - our interpretation of it is subjective" Then there is no need for art criticism, and no need to read an essay about the "origin of the work of art", Those who "love understanding" works of art should just be looking at them. Although, immediately Saul backs off from the above assertion, and suggests that our response (including certain explanations, no?) are "part of its revealing". (try Googling the phrase "double talk") If Heidegger's essays are considered as poetry, and every "is" can be replaced by "seems to me" -- then I suppose this poem does present a certain way of being in the world -- nothing like mine -- but interesting for its rhythms of circular thinking and the dark, romantic undertones shared by national socialism. When he concludes that art has been dying for several centuries -- for him, it has been (and judging from how he writes about Van Gogh, art is as dead as a pair of muddy old shoes.) Boris's response is best: i.e. to celebrate Heidegger's "elegant sophisticated dialectic manner", and not to challenge him with any questions. ____________________________________________________________ Click to compare life insurance rates. Great rates, quick and easy. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYVvB5Qpe0MWK9kHLwGVhCAA0 W3clv6t3BryV1Bl21N1irkAg8TH4s/
