Then you should give e examples - that prove your points - that are not
anecdotal - in that for every example like the ones below we have examples
like the Louvre that is the model for all such institutions - at best the
depth of your arguments seems to be nothing more than journalism - which
reflects the "economic, social, and cultural  state of analytic  and abstract
thought in the US ( your difficulty with Heidigger) where the ability to name
something (being literal, not literate) passes for knowledge (ie.  Your use of
the term marxism, which you have in the past proven you know nothing about)
For your information I'm a Leninist

On 4/30/09 3:44 PM, "Chris Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:

I realize that your Marxist ideology, Saul,  declares that all decisions
reflect "economic, social, and cultural circumstances" -- but it's been so
difficult for you to  show what special circumstances might be reflected by
cultural diversity. (that wouldn't also be reflected by an intolerant
ethno-centrism)

And if we examine the choices made by individual collectors/curators, your
difficulty will be even greater. (I don't expect you to even try to provide
an
example)

Currently, the gallery of South Asian sculpture at the A.I.C. is almost 70%
the result of one collector who recently gave a ton of stuff to the museum.
He seemed to like the depiction of animals (elephants, cows) and to be aiming
for variety of unusual genres rather than excellence in any one of them.
What
specific economic, social, and cultural circumstances could that reflect --
that differs from those collectors that came before him?

And then there was the 19C. Spanish engraver whose collection of Renaissance
drawings passed through Evanston last month. He was especially fond of Luca
Cambiaso --perhaps too fond, since he  collected bad forgeries as well as
great originals. How could that preference be reflected by his economic,
social, and cultural circumstances?

I have pity for the poor undergraduate art students who end up at your
school,
Saul, but this is America, land of freedom,  and the land of caveat emptor.





>this last is utter nonsense - its the type of things I hear form
underrgraduates who are just becoming socially aware - and I guest they get
it
from people like you who aren't aware



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