Chris wrote:
"I distinguish between the ego-absent desire to participate in
some
universal-essential truth from the  egocentric desire to believe that it
has
already happened."

- From my humble philosophical point of view, there is
no such thing as a "ego-absent desire to participate in some
universal.essential truth" Ego-absent desire to participate seems odd to me.
Is desire egoless? Is desire a pre-rational stuff? If it is, you cannot
"desire to participate".Participation being a decision. Is it a part of the
perception-action process?

As for the universal essential truth (very
occidental, right?), we all know where it drives us: superstition,
dictatorships, death and destruction. We'd be better off leaving that
supposedly "universal essential truth" alone, or admit "it" doesn't exist and
just enter the game of life. We are so scared and insecured we want to believe
in "it", reach for "it", we will portray "it", worship "it", kill in
"its"name. Anyone who does not recognize "its" existence is an ennemy. We will
use "great" art as a medium to reach "it". And of course, we MUST preserve
great art, right.


Chris wrote:
"Have you ever been around the children of
professional intellectuals?  Growing
up in a family world of endless debate,
the kids tend to become  precociously
(and often humorously) articulate -- and
a collection of  selected artifacts
can have the same effect on the artist who
lives with them. I think that's why artists like to collect stuff."

- So do
kids from what you called the jungle, and from small African villages. You do
not have to be the son or daughter of "professional" intellectuals to be
"precociously" articulate. With all due respect Chris, this is plain B.S. to
say the least.

- Collecting stuff ? You mean like trying to make permanent
what's not ?

Chris wrote:
"As the long-departed Kirby noted, it's really
something of a cultural disaster
to have Marxists (or Leninists) ensconced in
our cultural institutions because
their understanding of the human condition
is so narrow."

- Narrow ? Cultural disaster ? Ha ha ha... looks who4s
talking!

"And besides, they're just wasting their own time. They should out
in the
factories trying to organize another revolution."

- You mean, like the
Rockefellers of the world want to organize the world economic order?

- If
faith is not egocentric, then what is it?

Chris wrote: "So the reason for
collecting it is not just to flatter oneself, but to
repeatedly reach for what
it has to offer."

- Which is exactly the same, I'd say, but with a excuse.
Luc




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From: Chris Miller
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3, 2009 8:50:32 AM
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