What I meant was; is impossible to design an abstract painting that would have an aesthetic meaning to you,
though different from any view. Or have you ever tried to do one?
mando

On May 12, 2009, at 6:38 AM, William Conger wrote:

As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as a totally abstract painting; or every painting is totally abstract. It's either all one or all the other and there's no difference between them. All representation or recognition is due to associative neural activity. And every act of looking ignites the associative stream. So, everything looks like something else.
wc




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From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
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Cc: armando baeza <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 8:52:31 PM
Subject: Re: Architecture and Philosophy

When a totally abstract (except for color) painting that has
excellent design balance,
does balance refers to gravity or does it refer to View from every
angle ,up or down.
Would it become off balance if the point of view is change.
mando
On May 11, 2009, at 7:21 AM, William Conger wrote:

I already said that my work can't be put upsidedown and still
express the composition as intended.  They don't work except in the
direction I chose.  If someone else can't see that, then they don't
see very well.
wc




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From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 9:55:26 PM
Subject: Re: Architecture and Philosophy

i guess i was thinking of tile patterns within each tile that can be
placed anywhere,and is aesthetically
Ok, like any other well designed abstract work. As I wrote
before,Terrazzo tile in my Bath room.
Even that grid is not depended on gravity to spark some emotion.
Like your work,it can be upside down.
mando

On May 10, 2009, at 4:38 PM, William Conger wrote:

A flat grid plane is parallel to the ground or even contiguous with
it.  Like a flat tabletop view instead of a window view.  So that's
gravity, too.

wc




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From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:52:48 PM
Subject: Re: Architecture and Philosophy

No gravity there, right?
mando

On May 10, 2009, at 2:50 PM, William Conger wrote:

 a grid of any pattern.

wc


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Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:49:44 AM
Subject: Re: Architecture and Philosophy

I don't think so.
Boris

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From: armando baeza <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Architecture and Philosophy
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:27:03 -0700

Aren't there  art designs that look well composed in any position,
specially in abstract art?

On May 9, 2009, at 8:50 AM, William Conger wrote:

Yep! Luis is right.  But architecture has a master it must always
heed: Gravity.  What natural law/s  limits all the other arts?
WC




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Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 7:53:17 AM
Subject: Re: Architecture and Philosophy

Earlier I wrote (2 items from a list):


a) Architecture can be the manipulation of space through markers:
monuments, obelisks, etc.


b) Architecture can be the negative space formed by the
perimeter of
buildings, columns, walls, water features, earthworks, etc. such as
in  plazas.

Some of you appeared skeptical, so here is an excellent example:

St. Peter's Square - Vatican City
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St_Peter%
27s_Square,_Vatican_City_-_April
_2007.jpg_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
File:St_Peter's_Square,_Vatican_City_-
_April_2007.jpg)

Architecture is not just the building/structure but the space
that it
encloses/defines both on the interior and exterior.

c. Architecture is the manipulation of the negative space within
and
outside of a building/structure.

Note: I believe that any decent architect understands, accepts and
incorporates the above (a + b + c)  in their architectural
thinking/work.



Luis Fontanills

Architect
Miami/Dade Counties,  Florida





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