On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:04 AM, William Conger wrote:

We don't of course, take a real tree into our heads when we see one, but form an "idea" of the tree -- what some have called "image-text" -- that is, a metaphor.

Ya see, now. Thass you're problem. You're trying to explain the process of perception with an explanation that uses words from another discipline--that poetry stuff.

Actually, a bit less sassy: It probably passes understanding by some that the internal mechanism by which we represent the perceptions to ourselves--i.e., how we know that we're "seeing" something--is a form of metaphor, a standing in. The immediate perceptions seem (a) immediate and (2) so completely bound to the stimuli that's it's hard to distinguish the internal representation as a mapping of our neuronal responses onto **not** the external object (we generally don't confuse our impressions of a tree for the thing in the front yard), but onto our other previous experiences of similar patterns, so that we recognize ("re-know") this stimulus as probably a tree like many others we have seen.

Try this:

Pay attention to whatever you are observing, whether by sight, hearing, touch, etc. Now (if you're thinking of what you are looking at), imagine the field of your vision as totally black, with small points of radiation emanating from different spots, and perhaps pulsating waves of that radiation, and different perceptions of dense and less dense (representing different intensities of the radiation), etc. It's probably quite difficult and improbably obtuse: what is this odd scheme he's talking about?

Now, consider that what you are imagining is the way the objects in the world "really" look.

Imagine you are perceiving them, not with human vision, but with some other kind of electromagnetic sensing apparatus inside your head. Your brain takes all the sensory stimuli and input and constructs a "meaningful" array which you use to navigate and make your way through the world.

Or do this: Imagine being able to perceive all the *other* electromagnetic radiation (X-rays, gamma radiation, radio and television transmissions, etc.) or sound waves (extremely high or low frequencies). What kind of mental array would your brain produce to display these stimuli?


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