If , as William says, "A claim is a claim  and in the case of art, all claims
are equal", then no claims are " universally validated by history, art, or
practice", and  the absence of  such  validation is irrelevant.

If you disagree with Mando's claim, all you can do is offer examples of
"machine made art" (as Mando defines it) which you would call good art.

But unfortunately, Mando's definition is "those who do very realistic work
without any skill in the doing of it"

And  how do you determine the  presence or absence of skill, if not by the
appearance of the results?

Which makes the discussion of "machine made" -- or really any other kind of
"facture" --- just another art-talk attempt to make a personal judgment sound
more important.

Mando doesn't like certain paintings and sculptures -- and since he's spent
fifty years designing things, it can be important to know what those are.

But his attempt to generalize those judgments with reference to "machine made"
has gone nowhere.




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