See today's www.artnet.com/magazine for Ben Davis on Dutton.  Good slam-dunk.

wc


----- Original Message ----
From: Chris Miller <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 8:54:45 AM
Subject: Re: Reading Dutton: Chapter 10 - Four Characteristics of Great  Art

As Dutton asserted in Chapter 4, "The interpretation is not something  outside
the work; work and interpretation arise together in aesthetic consciousness"

So that "highest degree of meaning-complexity that the mind can grasp" is
going to have to be found within the work itself, rather than within whatever
various interpretive texts are linked to it.

And Dutton applies a rather demanding standard for the existence of serious
content a few paragraphs later when he asserts  that "An enduring masterpiece
that presented a perfect,  pretty landscape would probably use it as, say, a
background for the Expulsion from Eden than as a central subject in its own
right"

Even if one person may find "every aspect of human experience: intellect and
the will, but also emotions and human values of every kind" in a piano sonata
or abstract painting, it's likely that anyone else will find ideas, emotions,
and values that are completely different. (this is the same issue that Kivy
discussed as he argued that absolute music has no content at all)

That why Dutton used the fusion of indisputable elements like " poetry,
plotting, and dramatic rhythm in a play like "King Lear" as his example of
complexity.

I'm sure that  Dutton would not dismiss all abstract paintings or piano
sonatas as frivolous  (and apparently he collects piano recordings), he just
recognizes that a higher degree of complexity, and therefore greatness,  is
achieved elsewhere.


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>>So  Dutton's notion of "great art" is Romantic, and is best exemplified by
the long, dramatic works that were popular in that era. It's hard to see how a
piano sonata, lyric poem,  Chardin still-life, or an abstract painting could
ever qualify.

>As expected, you've trivialized the point again.  Many abstract artworks
exemplify the attributes. Why attribute your limitations to Dutton?  wc



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