The essence can only be reached in the artist mind.
My feeling is that object owns the essence.
mando
On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:27 PM, Boris Shoshensky wrote:
I thought we established that can't know full reality. We don't know
complete self. I believe that art can go into Reality further then
any other
human act, even science.
Don't ask me for research that supports the idea. In this instance
it's a gut
felt conviction in a beauty-truth.
Hegel new better that art can create abstraction that is closer to
Reality
then we are able to approach with pure logic.
Boris Shoshensky
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: "Hegel gets at this idea when he says that a great
portrait can
b e more like the individual than the real individual himself.
The pai
nter captures the essence, the deeper reality."
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:04:27 -0800 (PST)
Hegel should've known better. You can't be more real than the
real. Hegel
was using a common figure of speech, a sort of honorific idiom to
say that the
artist gets at the nuance of the person that is not evident at
glance or in a
particular moment. So I take that to mean that the artist's
portrait conveys
something generalized, or even suggestive of other portraits. So
instead of
particularizing the portrait, the artist generalizes it to achieve
what Hegel
had in mind, even though he didn't say it well. Translation issue?
wc
----- Original Message ----
From: Boris Shoshensky <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 11:11:41 AM
Subject: Re: "Hegel gets at this idea when he says that a great
portrait can
b e more like the individual than the real individual himself.
The pai nter
captures the essence, the deeper reality."
"Roche: There is this notion that artists depictions are more real
than
everyday reality because ours are scattered, uninformed, unfocused.
Hegel
gets
at this idea when he says that a great portrait can be more like the
individual than the real individual himself. The painter captures the
essence,
the deeper reality. So too with literary artists, they may present
reality
more clearly. And as problems in our society become more severe,
and our
actions have effects over great distances and time, the need for
the poet as
prophet, the novelist as prophet becomes more acute.>
Absolutely agree with Hegel's idea.
Boris Shoshensky
---------- Original Message ----------
From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: "Hegel gets at this idea when he says that a great
portrait can be
more like the individual than the real individual himself. The
painter
captures the essence, the deeper reality."
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:42:17 -1000
http://magazine.nd.edu/news/10495
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