This is one of the topics always under discussion.  The problem with skills and 
recipes is that no threshold standards for determining art quality are 
recognized anymore.  Now anything can be art and thus nothing is excluded as 
possible art.  We need to go back to Kant to understand why.  He argued that an 
aesthetic impression is intuitive, a-priori, and tacit. It affects how we 
experience the world and makes it possible to experience anything at all as 
aesthetic.  So the objective world, including what we call art, is partially 
enabled and shaped by the subjective a-priori.  The "we" is another problem, 
one that entails cultural, class, political, agreements, more or less 
explicated or undone from time to time.  You are lamenting that public taste in 
saying it's all but absent anymore.  I'm not so sure it's absent but it is 
being expanded to paradoxical extremes.  And who is to say what a skill or 
recipe is?  Every artist uses conventions -- ways of
 doing things -- and you might say that these are skills or recipes.  The 
conventions are, however, always under scrutiny because redundancy, conventions 
that have lost their relevancy for both artists and culture, are dead and 
false.  Any serious artist is forever testing his and his culture's 
conventions, in the medium, and in conceptual ways of shaping ideas about the 
world (and of experience).  Furthermore, I think it's impossible to forego all 
"art" conventions or recipes because those that already exist are the only ones 
to copy, test, alter, destroy.  In this way the artist is always addressing the 
past and whatever is proposed as a new or altered contention necessarily 
retains the echoes of its history (in other art or symbolic cultural endeavor). 
 It is equally impossible to retain a past convention intact (or even from day 
to day) since one's way of experiencing the world, both in ordinary sensory and 
informational terms, and in (more
 correctly) metaphorical terms are undergoing constant change.  You are not the 
same person from day to day in the most intimate experiential terms and thus 
you do not have the same a-priori sensations day to day and thus you construct 
your perception of reality different from day to day (meaning also moment to 
moment). If this is so, how much more is it true of something from a distant 
past (reconstructed also) and by different minds? 

As usual, I need to bluntly reject the intent of your argument, with polite 
apologies.   It lacks reflective substance.  It pleads for authority only on 
the grounds of sentimentality of a particularly gooey sort.

WC


----- Original Message ----
From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, April 24, 2010 6:24:32 PM
Subject: "...The orchard used to produce a crop every year, which was  made  
into cherry jam. But, as Firs informs us, now the recipe has  been lost. It is  
thus a relic of the past, an artifact, of no present  use to anyone except as  
a memorial to or symbol of th

Concerning that comment about Chekhov's THE CHERRY ORCHARD, isn't there a
parallel with the world of art today where young artists no longer can begin
to hope to create works of art approaching the level of the masterpieces of
the past because they no longer remember the recipe, i.e., that the skills
and rules of the past have not been properly passed down to them?:

http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/cherryorchard/themes.html

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