Yes, if anything can be art then to draw like a Dutch Master is equivalent to
the outline of a mudpuddle, or any found object or description.  Fine with me.
But it actually says nothing about art because there is nothing that is NOT
art. The term art and the term anything are therefore redundant and either one
can be cast out.  What the statement says is that all things, including art
things, are equally meaningless. Also fine with me.  Meaning is a complex
social cluster and can be constructed or tapped by means of symbol and use.
This is very difficult thinking.  I'm trying to work through it, quite
clumsily.  Imagine that you have no self.  Imagine that there is no You.
Imagine that self is an illusion prompted by our dna to keep it alive.   Self
might be a metaphor of the social and physical totality. Art is a particular
socially recognized way of considering the dissolution of the illusion of
self.  It has to be make-believe because the illusion of self is what enables
us to consider its dissolution.

Artists talk about self, self expression, me,
my, personal, etc., but maybe what they really do is to ritually enact the
truth that there is no self at all.

wc 


----- Original Message ----
From:
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected];
[email protected]
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 2:15:24 PM
Subject: Re:
"I regret that, in our attempt to establish some standards, we  didn't  make
them stick. We couldn't find a way to pass them on to another  generation,
really."

In a message dated 5/24/10 9:51:03 AM, [email protected]
writes:


>  Those in power now are the "art is
> anything" people and yet,
Orwellian-like, what they really are saying is, 
> Art
> is anything, except
traditional skill-based art. 
> 

   I think they haven't   realized that if
anything is art then skill based 
art can and ought to take advantage of that.
The use of lightbulbs   as a 
still life still shocks many who would be
appreciative if they were real 
lightbulbs in a pile and called art. They
would also last longer and be easier 
to commodify. It may be a refusal to
broaden the scope of skill based art 
combined with a need to as Sual said in
part: The subject of art is that aspect 
of our being we seek to find the
means to
objectify (externalize, make actual). The sequence of philosophical
events 
Saul described in his other letter may then be finding a rational for
describing our own being without trespassing upon the   corpus of what many
think 
of as real or classic or good art-not so much a deliberate deskilling
as an 
evasion   of comparison.
KAte Sullivan
  
    If Durer was skill
based,and if he took as his primary subject the 
religious icons of the the
time,which he then sold

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