Art as an aesthetic objectification of experience, to a certain degree, sounds good to me. Another way to objectify experience, to a certain degree, is science, with some aesthetic component as a collateral effect. Boris Shoshensky
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Mike Mallory" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: "Indifference to the aesthetic will in the long run lessen the economic product [whereas] attention to the aesthetic will increase economic welfare." Josiah Stamp Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:27:25 -0700 I have suggested that aesthetics objectifies experience, which facilitates commodification. I did not mean that aesthetics turns experience into a material object. Rather, to answer Kate's question, aesthetics is a process whereby a piece of the endless flowing stream of experience is segregated and separated out. A simple or complex unit of experience becomes "framed" by the artifact. This results in a conceptual object. Furthermore, I'm only saying that the process can happen this way. Artwork representing experience previously reduced to a conceptual object is more appropriately viewed as editing, rather than create, a conceptual object. Mike Mallory _____________________________________________ From: "Saul Ostrow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:00 PM Subject: Re: "Indifference to the aesthetic will in the long run lessen the economic product [whereas] attention to the aesthetic will increase economic welfare." Josiah Stamp > Commodification needs no material object - it is the fetishization of > objectification - in that the objectified experience is of greater > exchange > value than it does use value - the very process in itself is one of > anaesthetization &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Doesn't it also involve a lexical shift, in that things are described so that their social meanings are changed from what was previously not acceptable as an aesthetic perception to being acceptable? Also what is the objectification of experience? Kate Sullivan
