Yep. But power can get by a long time without consensus because it has coercion 
and punishment. 

Hey, this is interesting.  When does art (the objectified quality) have power 
to 
enforce consensus re its quality?
wc


----- Original Message ----
From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:37:26 AM
Subject: Re: Can art exist without authority?

Concensus over time (not in time) establishes quality


On 11/16/10 9:53 AM, "William Conger" <[email protected]> wrote:

No, it eventually becomes the good.  Authority is power, not quality.
wc


----- Original Message ----
From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 11:16:41 PM
Subject: Re: Can art exist without authority?

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:08 PM, joseph berg <[email protected]> wrote:

> - *Good art weathers* the ages because once in so often a man of
> intelligence commands the mass to adore it.
>
> *Ezra* Pound
>


Without authority, won't the bad eventually push out the good?



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