Re the end of guilds:  The industrial revolution helped to end them but they 
live on in some unions. But if you want the guilds back then you want the 
support system, the patronage, that enabled them to exist.  That means kings, 
aristocrats, dictators, the supremacy of a unaccountable state.  No thanks. 
Manufactured wares are usually -- or could be -- much better than hand-made 
wares except for the filigree and doo-daddy decorations.  

The one bad result, in my view, of manufacturing and the design methods serving 
it, is the shift from making things as good as they can be made to making 
things 
only as good as they need to be, or planned obsolescence.  This is not a 
re-valuing of the hand made or guild made but a revaluing of the manufacturing 
process as a way to maintain market stimulus.  I suppose that's  fine in many 
cases but not fine in many others.  For example, is it good to make, say, 
refrigerators that will break down in five years or to make them in the earlier 
way to last thirty or more years?  I had a big, clumsy stove exhaust fan that 
worked perfectly after fifty years and replaced it during a gut rehab with one 
that'll probably burn out in ten years.  That's true of almost all manufactured 
consumer goods now. I'm still using a 1960 electric jig saw but have gone 
through or six or seven much newer electric drills over the same time. Why? The 
basic motor parts are the same but their put-together quality is much changed. 
I 
was involved in a study of autos in the 1980s (supposedly an aesthetic study 
that was really a manufacturing study at Northwestern Univ. Engineering School) 
and it was determined that the only reason Japanese cars where better at that 
time than American cars was the variances of machined tolerances.  The Japanese 
cars were made to very tight tolerances -- how parts fit together -- and the 
American cars had quite loose tolerances and so they wore out or broke more 
quickly. Otherwise the cars were identical in mechanical terms. 
wc


----- Original Message ----
From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, January 8, 2012 12:29:37 AM
Subject: "The feudal system of industry, in which industrial production  was 
monopolised by closed guilds, now no longer sufficed for the  growing wants of 
the new markets. The manufacturing system took its  place. The guild-masters 
were pushed on one side by th

Didn't traditional skills begin to disappear with the decline of guilds?:

- The <http://the/> feudal system of industry, in which industrial
production was monopolised by closed guilds, now no longer sufficed for the
growing wants of the new markets. The manufacturing system took its place.
The guild-masters were pushed on one side by the manufacturing middle
class..."

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm

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