In a message dated 3/12/12 4:39:25 AM, [email protected] writes:

> Do you feel that an a.e. is supposed to be cathartic, i.e., provide a 
> kind
> of purge?
> 
> In truth, no, though I concede there seems to be an element of "readiness" 
involved; e.g. satiety, exhaustion, can play a part. Satiety can certainly 
be a factor in matters of sex, but to address this a bit more clearly, I 
might shift the comparison of "pleasures" from sexual to gustatory. 

One can sit down to a table covered with a variety of comestibles. Some of 
the edibles "taste better" than others. Indeed, some of them occasion a 
taste that calls for a superlative adjective. "This veal dish tastes 
exquisite!" 
But when you've eaten your full, the taste-pleasure weakens, you've had 
"enough". The readiness, the possibility, for gustatory pleasure diminishes as 
the taste-receptors in the palate are "exhausted". Something comparable 
occurs if I try to read poetry for hours on end, or spend half a day at the 
Metropolitan Museum of art.   

Still, I'm not inclined to call gustatory pleasure 'cathartic' or 
'purgative'   the way one might characterize the feeling of orgasm. 

In response to Conlin's good posting, I add this. Without "defining" 
consciousness, I can say I've never been aware of confusing a palatal 
experience 
with a sexual experience.   Similarly, when I've had an "aesthetic 
experience", I've been convinced this feeling was a genus distinctly different 
from 
sexual or palatal. As I stood in front of one of Van Gogh's SUNFLOWERS     in 
the Kroller-Muller Museum, the whelming sensation was of a "kind" different 
from those other two. And when I first had an aesthetic experience from 
poetry (from a poem by Dickinson and a poem by Auden, both on the same night) I 
knew this feeling was different from anything I could remember from my 
earlier reading life. (And this was after college where I'd read much poetry in 
fulfilling academic assignments. I concede I was a very slow starter.)

This is not to deny that my aesthetic experiences were subject to ranges: 
ranges in power, and ranges in genre sources. Still, though experiences from 
poetry, music, paintings et al were distinct, I've had no hesitation in 
maintaining they have been of a "kind" different from sexual, palatal, etc.   
Moreover, I've been convinced that   certain "out of the studio" daily-life   
experiences were yielding an aesthetic experience: on a sporting field, a 
landscape in Italy and California, on television as I watched the unfolding of 
a "real life" drama. 

There is obviously much more to say, but I'll save some of it for my next 
posting, more completely devoted to Conlin's posting.   

(One last remark, in reponse to something Joseph (Artsy6) asked: The late 
piano concertos of Mozart provided some of his "best moments". And passages 
in some of the operas. To show I'm not an undiscriminating pushover for 
anything Mozartian, I report that, for me, IDOMENEO provided only three hours 
of 
tedium. 

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