I think redundancy is a poor word in this context.  It's more like an echo when 
patterns are repeated because in fact they can't be really repeated in a visual 
artwork except in a wallpaper type image.   The old beaux-arts approach to 
visual order and beauty was called the Style and that called for repeating 
elements to establish harmony but in the echo sense and not as redundant 
repetition.  Actually, such harmonizing of shapes, colors, lines ---giving them 
a kind of visual kinship -- has been a mainstay of art in all eras.  It's a 
human preference.  The  study, therefore, adds nothing new.  But it remains an 
issue that culture can contradict normal human preference and then people 
choose 
what culture seems to dictate.  Advertisers, for instance, have long known that 
they can 'create' a desire for a product by various means even though without 
the initial advertising, no one was looking for the new benefit.
wc


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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 10:20:33 AM
Subject: Re: "...We can gain insights into the origin and nature of  aesthetic 
judgment. For example, neurobiological monitoring...[has]  shown that the brain 
is most aroused by patterns in which there is  about a 20 percent redundancy of 
elements..."

Artsy6 not only found Wilson's provocative piece, he cited what was for me 
the most interesting line in the article: 


> "...We can gain insights into the origin and nature of aesthetic 
> judgment.
> For example, neurobiological monitoring...[has] shown that the brain is
> most aroused by patterns in which there is about a 20 percent redundancy 
> of
> elements..."
> 
> http://harvardmagazine.com/2012/05/on-the-origins-of-the-arts
> 
> I, as a "creative writer", would have loved more elaboration on that point 
about the ostensible value of a certain amount of redundancy. Writers -- and 
their editors -- tend to want to eliminate redundancy, repetition, in a 
given work. And yet, when choosing "what comes next", the writer oftens feels 
perversely drawn to what may feel like repetition, albeit slightly varied. 
The cold editorial eye, working "by the book", may actually be hurting a work. 
"When in doubt, cut it out," feels mechanically right, and yet there is 
much counter-evidence. Consider the power of the King James bible, with its 
repetitions galore. Melville's chapter on the "whiteness of the whale" sneaks 
up on the reader, accumulating, through quasi-repetition, an immense impact. 
I've observed certain inspired comics who, as they tell one extended joke, 
repeat the same motif until you believe they've "lost it" (e.g. Jackie Mason 
describing a man ordering   lunch at a hotel in the Catskills, and 
constantly saying, "and put it on a separate plate"). Then he does it one more 
time 

and suddenly you find yourself in a seizure of uncontrollable laughter. What 
lessons about "redundancy" can a creator learn? 

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