the idea that a abstract paining is a thing rather than an apparatus - a way to organize the luminal is literal - the other is is an act of signiifcation or the construction of a simile or an allegory
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:20 PM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote: > But isn't that making the immaterial literal? > wc > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: saul ostrow <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, June 9, 2012 4:17:16 PM > Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist" > > for them the question is how to make an abstract painting - rather than why > make a painting that deals with what might be extracted from experience > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:31 PM, William Conger <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Then are the current hordes of neo-process artists guilty or your charge > > or are > > they in harmony with your view? > > wc > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: saul ostrow <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sat, June 9, 2012 3:11:09 PM > > Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist" > > > > as you know I am presently working on how the miss-understanding of > > Formalism in the pragmatically oriented USA abstract art was > transformed > > from an apparatus - a means of extraction and expression into a thing - > an > > object to be described > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:20 PM, William Conger <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > Not a bad point from Saul. I plead guilty as charge because as an > artist > > > my > > > goal is to make abstract thoughts literal as paintings. > > > wc > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: saulostrow <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sat, June 9, 2012 2:11:36 PM > > > Subject: Re: Scott Fitzgerald quote and "the definition of an artist" > > > > > > The ability to think abstractly is on the decline - we are becoming > > > increasingly literal minded - thought has become instrumental - all you > > > need do is read most of the post to this listserv > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Michael Brady < > > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:14 PM, saulostrow wrote: > > > > > > > > > The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to think > > > abstractly > > > > > and act concretely > > > > > > > > Intelligence can't act, per se. But if you mean the for a person with > > > > first-rate intelligence to think abstractly and act concretely, well, > > > > that's > > > > everybody! > > > > > > > > > > > > | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > > > > Michael Brady > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Saul Ostrow > > > *Crtical Voices* > > > 21STREETPROJECTS > > > 162 West 21 Street > > > NYC, NY 10011 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Saul Ostrow > > *Crtical Voices* > > 21STREETPROJECTS > > 162 West 21 Street > > NYC, NY 10011 > > > > > > > -- > Saul Ostrow > *Crtical Voices* > 21STREETPROJECTS > 162 West 21 Street > NYC, NY 10011 > > -- Saul Ostrow *Crtical Voices* 21STREETPROJECTS 162 West 21 Street NYC, NY 10011
