I think Cheerskep errs when he says that artists who are cerebral and early-on 
good with drawing, anatomy, perspective rarely go on to great achievement in 
the 
visual arts.   My experience is the opposite, but modified by conditions having 
to do with 'great achievement' and the generational changes in how and what 
artists are taught. 

We don't really know what great achievement is as it has to be contextualized 
and doing that in the visual arts means a lot of other people besides the 
artist 
are involved.  They are the art world experts: dealers, curators, critics, 
collectors, etc., plus a healthy dose of good luck and having the work seen in 
the right place at the right time.  Despite all the triumphal talk about 
artists 
and individual onlookers having the say-so 'greatness or achievement' as 
recognition always involves those others. Of course anybody can make the claim 
of 'high achievement' but it will remain unverified until those others weigh 
in. 

Most artists up to my generation at least were trained or at least well-exposed 
to the basic drawing skills.  They got the message that if they were any good 
they could draw competently, I mean do convincing work in figure drawing, 
perspective, and the like -- working from life, as it was known.  Most 
youngsters who begin art early -- before 10 yrs. -- usually test themselves and 
recognize their own abilities by drawing from life. By the way, I've never seen 
a 10 yr. old budding conceptual artist.  Also, kids, again, around age 10, 
 don't do 'abstract' work without being prompted.  Nowadays, the influential 
art 
schools like Cal-Arts don't teach "to the wrist" and thus are not training 
young 
artists to draw from life.  That school does not offer life drawing or figure 
drawing and neither do many other schools require it as a basic skill anymore. 
 Skills, the wrist-work, are not emphasized in art schools anymore, except in 
the so-called commercial schools (art schools specifically centered on 
traditional skills). 

So, it's kinda funny that the cerebral artists today are primarily those who 
eschew any of the old studio skills.  They are "post studio' and "de-skilled" 
while the traditional skill-oriented schools eschew the 'conceptual' focus and 
maintain technical excellence as the marker of good art.

Artists like me are the odd ones today.  I make very "cerebral abstract art" 
having to do with ideas about narrative and history and figural metaphor 
involving language and formalist art history (what did I leave out?) but I 
sometimes like to 'go back to nature'.  I've attached an image of a very recent 
self portrait.

Getting back to 'great achievement' I recommend Sarah Thornton's book, Seven 
Days in The Art World (2008).  Here's a quick read, a page turner, actually, 
that provides an excellent overview of how the global art world really operates 
and how far removed it is from the everyman's notion of art and culture.  The 
book is a bit dated even though it's only been out a few years because things 
move so fast but overall, it speaks truth, the fascinating, horrible, lusty 
truth..."Woe to Those who Enter Here"....almost like entering a Dante-esque 
Hell. 

WC


----- Original Message ----
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, June 11, 2012 2:06:20 PM
Subject: Re: No Subject

In a message dated 6/10/12 9:26:25 PM, [email protected] writes:


> I once took an aptitude in art test as a teenager.  It consisted of
> facing pages
> of Kandinsky-esque designs and I was to choose the best design on each set
> of
> pages.  My score was percentile 3.  I was told that 97% of people taking
> the
> test scored better than I did.  I replied that all of the designs were bad
> and
> that the test was a flop.  I also knew right away that I had an art career
> ahead.
> wc
>
> I've seen many, many aptitude tests, and I've never seen one that I felt
could be a useful test/predictor of worthiness in poetry or fiction. Two of
the three things such "tests" can't test are creativity and sensibility. (The
third is long-term memory, which in fact also very often plays a role in
creative verbal achievement.)

I imagine the same obtains when it comes to visual creativity. It's
notorious that those who get ultra-scores on "IQ tests" tend to be good at
"drawing" -- because they early on learn the cerebral stuff like anatomy,
proportions, and perspective. But they seldom go on to great achievement in
visual
arts. That's probably why William is so good an artist. Thank god he's never
been cerebral. (Heh-heh! I mekbeegjuk, William. I think you're cerebral as
hell.)

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 
IMG_0896.JPG]

Reply via email to