I don't think the list is dead, but in several senses it's much narrower
than its predecessor -- the official online ASA website. The ASA decided to
terminate the "forum" aspect of that site where any topic of potential
interest to aestheticians could be introduced for discussion by members.

The ASA never made public its reasons for shutting down the give-and-take
forum, but, though the loss was brutal, my conjectures made the decision
understandable. I guessed the largest reason was that a small number of
renegade
listers were making the forum, call it, unseemly. The exchanges too often
deteriorated into vicious name-calling, the topics went far adrift from
aesthetics, the evident lack of seriously informed backgrounds of many listers
probably put off the academics on the list (in most universities aesthetics is
a sub-division of philosophy). Since the creation of our aesthetics online
forum, we have actually kicked out some listers whose agendas felt foreign
to the forum's intent. (One of them actually admitted that his primary goal
was to test the forum's tolerance of outrageous postings. It was startling to
me to discover there were such semi-deranged mentalities at large. In his
case where he was "at large" was dismaying indeed: He was teaching philosophy
in an eastern U.S. college.)

I say the loss was brutal because almost no academicians from the old list
stayed with the new list. A number of those former listers have gone on to
publish interesting and respected books on philosophy of art.

A trend that the ASA may have noted back then has reached full flood on the
new list:   The great majority of the listers are now visual artists. I
think we're lucky to have them, but one result has been that the threads are
heavily dominated by visual art. And more often than not the focus is not on
any aspect of the aesthetics of the genre, but on the market, museum
policies, etc. The ASA continues to publish its hard-copy quarterly, THE
JOURNAL OF
AESTHETICS AND ART CRITICISM. (I receive it because, though I'm not a
teaching academic, I'm a paid-up member of the ASA.) The latest edition has
pieces
and extended book reviews on the aesthetics of music, drama, film,   and
literature, as well as on aesthetics itself -- e.g. the nature of "aesthetic
experience".

I'm all for my learning about the concerns of painters -- even down to
questions of technique, finding buyers, calling attention to the leading
practitioners of past and present, and more. But I realize I have almost
nothing to
add there. And when I've tried to stir discussion of additional genres, or
of hard-core aesthetic questions, I find very little interest seems to
obtain in other listers.   I don't blame our other listers. I just wish we had
still OTHER listers.

But I don't want to believe the list is dead. I think it just dozes a bit.

Reply via email to