On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:13 AM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> Re: Berg's comment below .....
>
>
> "But doesn't self-interest eventually evolve into special interests who try
> to influence the decision-maker with money?"
>
> I reply:
>
> That seems to be the case nowadays but the USA Founding Fathers had the
> notion
> of Virtue, which to them meant that a moral sense of the good (good for the
> country and good for all) would always trump excessive self interest.
>  Their
> arguments were centered on scale.  They believed that local situations in
> society and commerce would exaggerate self interest at the expense,
> sometimes,
> of the larger society and thus a Federal government with a larger national
> viewpoint would offset those local interests.  Thus the  'narrow interest'
> states were balanced against the central government.  The early leaders
> tended
> to be rich, independent men who presumably couldn't be 'bought' by private
> interests but of course they tended to represent 'property' interests
> anyway,
> but not as blatantly as today.  Nobody talks about Virtue anymore in the
> same
> sense that the founding fathers imagined it.  Now it's the term extremists
> use
> when they want to evoke a sickly sentimentalism that masks egregious
> restrictions on freedom, oddly.
>
>
Concerning virtue, the following recent article says:

- The language of meritocracy (how to succeed) has eclipsed the language of
morality (how to be
virtuous).<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/opinion/brooks-why-our-elites-st
ink.html%20-%20The%20language%20of%20meritocracy%20(how%20to%20succeed)%20has
%20eclipsed%20the%20language%20of%20morality%20(how%20to%20be%20virtuous).>

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/opinion/brooks-why-our-elites-stink.html<ht
tp://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/opinion/brooks-why-our-elites-stink.html%20-%
20The%20language%20of%20meritocracy%20(how%20to%20succeed)%20has%20eclipsed%2
0the%20language%20of%20morality%20(how%20to%20be%20virtuous).>

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