The problem we face with Berg's endless attacks on art via his wide-ranging
and 
usually out of context quoting, is that it is true that the absence of
standards, or the application of contrasting standards, does affect the
overall 
quality of art in our time. 

In every endeavor or than art, from
sports to physics, it is evident that 
achievement occurs over a period of
time and engages the concentrated efforts of 
many people.  Each person works
to advance the project.  They concentrate on a 
given goal or problem working
individually or together they try to succeed.
The Renaissance is the prime
example of that in art history. From about 1200 to 
1500 artists in Italy were
working on the same problem: to recapture the 
naturalism ancient art,
investigate nature 'scientifically' and fuse their 
efforts with religious
faith.  Looking at ancient Greek sculpture from about 
about 650BC to 425BC
one can trace the gradual achievement of naturalistic form 
within an
idealized template.  Even in the modernist period, we can find the 
same
thing, albeit in shorter and more intense episodes, such as Impressionism,
Cubism, and even Pop art.  But now it's all centered on the efforts of each
artist.  There's little concentration on big ideas that require the efforts of
many or even several artists.

I saw a museum show last week that seems to
prove my point.  It included a lot 
of very diverse work and was supposed to
be about 'emerging' artists. None of 
them were working on shared ideas.  But
all of them were drawing from disparate 
ideas in culture.  One artist offered
a sign painting, I mean a painting that 
simply presented the words and
cartoon image that one might see on a store 
window sign for a special priced
item.  when I worked in advertising in the 
early 60s, when I wrote
advertising copy for department store displays, I went 
to the company sign
painter who could knock out hand painted signs by the dozens 
per day, many of
them embellished with little cartoon people or symbols.  He 
earned about
$2.50 an hour and his job was at the lower rank of the advertising 
art world.
Now, something not even as skilled as that former sign artist is in 
a museum.
It's crap and we should all admit it.

I care a lot about quality and high
achievement.  i didn't become an artist 
because I wanted to do something easy
or un-measured. I wanted to do the hardest 
thing I could think of doing.  The
sign painter I knew 50 years ago at least 
took some pride in what he did and
he did it well. The kid who can't do nearly 
as well as that $2.50 fellow
mimics sign painting and has his stuff in a museum. 
 He's not ambitious. So
why is his stuff on the museum wall?  

WC


----- Original Message ----
From:
joseph berg <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon,
September 17, 2012 3:42:17 AM
Subject: Re: bDeaf to proclamations and
manifestos of the international 
avant-garde, Fortuny did not have any problem
with, or any fear of, looking at 
the past as a source of inspiration and
ideas."

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Michael Brady
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Sep 15, 2012, at 1:44 AM, joseph berg
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
>
>
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/arts-entertainment/new-book-brings-rich-fortu
> ny-history-to-life-287522.html
>
> And...?
>
>
Isn't part of the problem of
art in these times that the past serves less
and less as a source of
inspiration and ideas?

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