I think when a person declares such and such to be an artwork, they are claiming precisely what you say and are extending their subjectivity like a cloak to surround and cover something with that projected, pretended, imagined ontic status. And of course you can disagree all day long with Duchamp and Picasso but their words are beyond being parsed. You can't say, "Ah, Mr.Picasso and Mr. Duchamp, I think you are making a linguistic error about the ontic status of words". wc
----- Original Message ---- From: Tom McCormack <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, September 25, 2012 5:46:39 PM Subject: Re: "The creation of Aboriginal art for an international market is poignantly paradigmatic of the modernist commodification of (fine) art in a very specific sense: as the abstraction and extraction--the reification--of particular visual or optical proper I continue to maintain it is a fundamental error, however romantic and self-aggrandizing for all of us, to maintain that "art" (artness, work of art) has a mind-independent ontic status. On Sep 24, 2012, at 8:37 PM, William Conger wrote: > Picasso was right, of course. And Duchamp simply excluded the 'showing' part and > claimed it was art if he said so. > wc > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Michael Brady <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, September 24, 2012 7:28:43 PM > Subject: Re: "The creation of Aboriginal art for an international market is > poignantly paradigmatic of the modernist commodification of (fine) art in a > very specific sense: as the abstraction and extraction--the reification--of > particular visual or optical proper > > On Sep 24, 2012, at 6:48 PM, William Conger <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That is an OK example of International Art English. What it says in > everyday >> speech is that Aboriginal art looks like some modernist abstraction and can > be >> appreciated as such, aside from whatever symbolic function it had for it > makers. >> Fits my universal rule: Everything looks like something else. > > Picasso said of African masks that they weren't art until they were taken to > Paris and shown there. > > > > | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > Michael Brady
