to start - I have come to understand that Kent believed  representations
are the recall of those  sensory experiences - the object that we associate
them with is only intuited and then named by language  representation - as
such language (semiotic systems)  reference or signify the bundles  of
experiences - thus representation refers to our experiences associated with
some stimuli and not the stimuli itself (which is only known as an
intuition) -Hegel's phenomenology in turn seeks to differentiate between
experience -and  the psychology induced by its representation (that which
is objectified) in turn we begin to believe that there are things in the
world that correspond to our representation of them -   Freud subsequently
picks up on this to the degree that he understanads us to be living in a
world of signs  and symbols which correspond to  and through which we try
to manifest our (somewhat deformed) subjectivity - representation  (as an
inuited object) gives rise to a distorted  external reality  and takes on a
life independent of the subject (the experiencing I)  -  whcih in turn
leads to Levi-Strauss and the notion of myth and the Law -  and Lacan and
Freud (again) notion of the impossibility of knowledge, truth or meaning in
any fixed form -least of all as defined by the self


On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:14 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh hey,that sounds good. Which terms?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: saul ostrow <[email protected]>
> To: aesthetics-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 11:11 am
> Subject: Re: wake up
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> Actually I'm busy rethinking what representation means in various
> frameworks - in December I actually had time to go back and look at the
> assumptions I  had about images, language and semiotics and came to the
> realization that I had substituted some vernacular interpretations for
> very
> specific terms. My last two post reflect this attempt at revisingmy
> understandings.
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>
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:05 AM, William Conger
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>  C'mon aesthetics listers, time to get up and start the brain! This
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> list
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>> used to
>> be so much fun with all sorts of postings, now reduced to quotations
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> from
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>> Berg.
>>  Maybe you are all twittering and texting instead.  Maybe you're --
>>
> gulp --
>
>> actually reading books.  I want to know if Collingwood still makes
>>
> sense
>
>> for
>> aesthetics.
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>> Get up, get up, nations rise and fall by noon.
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>> WC
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