On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:11 AM, William Conger <[email protected]>wrote:

> After the first sentence or so I was so bored by the article Berg points
> to that
> I gave up.  I thought that this is only a redux of John Dewey's
> "progressive
> education" philosophy, or learn by doing idea.  That was of course a good
> idea
> that was more or less the concept that later undergirded the Bauhaus
> curriculum
> and still inform the curricula of many schools world-wide.
>
> There are always several sides to any issue, including anything to do with
> art.
>  For instance, I like much of Jed Perl's writing because he is so good at
> getting to the heart of the decadence of contemporary art while holding to
> the
> enduring ideals of high art. But I also like a lot of what his exact
> counterpart, Jerry Saltz, writes as the reigning champion of low art and
> popular
> culture, the cutting rawness of vulgarity and of all things profane.
>  Somewhere,
> mixing the two together helps to locate the real condition of art -- and
> of our
> times.
> The same dialectic is true when it comes to creativity.  The
> free-experimentation with an eye on a goal or problem to solve is surely an
> important aspect of creativity as is the intelligent and practiced use of
> materials, tools, and rule-based methodologies.  That's really quite
> elementary,
> isn't it?
>
> Berg's insistent desire to raise one side up -- always the most
> conservative
> tradition-bound side --  and to push the other side down -- always the
> irreverent tradition-bashing side -- reveals his aversion to the use of
> dialectic which is necessary to any intellectual search for truth.
>
> Saul's idea that seems to claim many 'discourses about art' each one
> embracing a
> tradition and each one at some great or small odds with the others is
> really a
> plea for a highly developed dialectic and, to me, offers the best albeit
> very
> complex access to what the art of our times is really about.  It's a
> multi-faceted dialectic.  I'd like to see Berg pay more attention to that
> level
> of thinking and much less attention to the daily deluge of journalistic
> dumbed-down re-hashing of well known ideas, like John Dewey's.
>
> Let's go to the thick soup, not the watered down soup of the soup.
> wc
>
> You always like HIM better than ME.

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