Under the umbrella study of Aesthetics, seems to me that ugly and it's many
 degrees of it,exists. And so is beauty and it' variations.
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On Dec 28, 2013, at 3:25 PM, [email protected] wrote:

> In a message dated 12/28/13 4:08:06 PM, [email protected] writes:
>
>
>> might aesthetic reflection work better - and allow the ecstasy be
>> understood as affect
>>
>> For some it certainly may. For me it doesn't, because I see three different
> stages in the kind of aesthetic event I'm addressing. First, the raw-data
> encounter with the work -- seeing it, hearing it, reading it. Second, the
> almost immediate reaction -- the feeling I'm now calling aesthetic ecstasy.
> Third, any subsequent attempt to articulate what just happened, and how I
felt,
> and (to the extent possible) why.   I persist in feeling third stage
> amounts to my "reflections". They can go on for a long time after the
ecstasy
> itself is over. If you go to GOOGLE and enter the two words "Reflections on"
you
> see a large number of essays with titles that begin that way, and, for me,
> that period of reflection is, for me, unmistakably different from the
> ecstasy. (Burke's REFLECTIONS ON THE FRENCH REVOLUTION runs to 98,000 words.
In
> literature-appreciation, there have been "Reflections on" given short
stories
> that are longer than the story itself, and they are cerebral events, not the
> "feeling" itself.)
>
> But exactly what I've been claiming is that individual "words" do not
> "have" "meanings". That second stage -- the "ecstasy" -- is emotional, a
> "feeling", and I personally think of "reflections" as something collected in
> tranquility. If I burn my hand by encountering flame at the stove, I
wouldn't think
> of the pain as a reflection on the flame. But that's my own personal
> word-use. If a different use works for someone else, there's no way I can
call
> them "wrong". At most I might claim their use will occasion an unwanted
notion
> in many readers (I often did that as an editor), but I could be wrong about
> that.

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