Actually the film was very patriotic in my opinion.  It’s focus was more on the 
loss of human life that went into getting there.  National iconography was 
realistically displayed, and the reactions of the rest of the world were shown 
in original footage. The controversy simply isn’t founded. Much ado about 
nothing.

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> On Oct 13, 2018, at 2:57 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The flag is there. Prominently displayed. They just didn’t show much detail 
> of the lunar activity. Everything they did on the moon was greatly 
> abbreviated.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Non lent response (please Ken don't go)
>> Appollo 13 and the Martian.... Science aside, well worth watching. 
>> 
>> I can deal with stuff. I don't care who watches football. I didn't before, 
>> so the boycott is easy for me.
>> 
>> This film though. May he the best thing ever, could be factually accurate to 
>> the nth degree.
>> 
>> I'll never watch it. Ill never show it to my kids.
>> 
>> I'll take my kids to shooters on the day they show it in the school, which 
>> they will.
>> 
>> This wasn't a time of global kumbayah. That flag mattered, people died to 
>> put it there 
>> 
>> I wish the paid help would have kept their mouths shut, and maybe I'd feel 
>> different. But then again I'm old school, I always thought Bert and Ernie 
>> were just puppets with manhands in their asses. 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 8:37 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> First Man.
>>>  
>>> Some spoilers here but I think everyone probably knows how the story ends. 
>>>  
>>> First impression was I did not like the style of photography.  Too many 
>>> shaky closeups. 
>>>  
>>> One sure fire way to make me choke up, my nose burn and cause my eyes to 
>>> leak is to expose me to formaldehyde.  For some reason and am super super 
>>> duper hyper sensitive.  Other wise I am pretty stoic.
>>>  
>>> The other sure fire way to cause this reaction is if I am exposed to 
>>> material covering Apollo 1, Challenger or Columbia.  Odd emotional reaction 
>>> every time.  I guess because I was so into all of the Mercury, Gemini and 
>>> Apollo missions when they were happening.  I built models.  Listened to the 
>>> moon landing on the radio.  Totally geeked out to all of this stuff back in 
>>> the day. 
>>>  
>>> They did not do a very good job in communicating the horrible end to the 
>>> lives of the Apollo 1 astronauts.  Perhaps they did not want to traumatize 
>>> the audience, but they made it seem like – boom – its all over.  The 
>>> reality was much much more gruesome.
>>>  
>>> They overdramatized the uncommanded roll spin up of Gemini 8.  It was a big 
>>> time emergency but the graphics had it spinning like a dryer on spin cycle. 
>>>  I think max RPM was about 1 rev per second before Neil Armstrong finally 
>>> isolated it to a reaction control rocket firing continually.  He killed the 
>>> circuit breakers and was able to manually halt the roll.   I have spun 
>>> airplanes at this rate.  It is not going to cause you to pass out.  If he 
>>> was not able to stop the increase in roll rate it would have done so, but 
>>> they guy knew the spacecraft and he knew there were only so many things 
>>> that could cause this.  He did some basic troubleshooting and saved the day.
>>>  
>>> But the biggest thing that I disliked was them showing the inside of the 
>>> space craft.  Panels, annunciators and switches that were dirty, worn and 
>>> smudged.  Like some old bulldozer at a gravel pit instrument panel.  Almost 
>>> as if they built the props from stuff they got out of an aircraft bone 
>>> yard.  In reality, those things were brand spanking new and sparkling 
>>> clean.  The photos exist...   Not sure why they chose the grunge. 
>>>  
>>> Even the headliner of the spacecraft and their ear muff thingies looked 
>>> grungy and used. 
>>> They also showed a Chicago connector on one of the hoses connected to the 
>>> capsule.  Pretty sure a generic jackhammer air connector was not used. 
>>>  
>>> They glossed over the 1202 alarm a bit too much. (The book Digital Apollo 
>>> is a great read about this).  They were more concerned about that than the 
>>> movie lets on.  They showed a scene where Neil flew over a super deep 
>>> crater while running out of fuel.  That never happened, he was just picking 
>>> out a spot between the boulders. 
>>>  
>>> So, if you care about fine detail accuracy, you may not enjoy this too 
>>> much. 
>>> It is not nearly as good as a PBS special by any stretch of the 
>>> imagination. 
>>>  
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