He replaced it with a Mikrotik... thanks for imput guys....

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 8:40 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] wrote:

> Yes, ASA is the successor to PIX which Cisco acquired around 1995.  Cisco
> grew by acquisitions, e.g. the Catalyst switch product line.  PIX had its
> own OS, Catalyst had its own OS, over time they made them look more like
> IOS, but just enough different to be confusing.
>
>
>
> I think another justification of VPN firewall products was that you could
> only get decent IPSEC performance on a box with encryption in hardware.
> But now CPU chips are fast enough and many have hardware acceleration for
> encryption, so that you don’t need a special Cisco box.  Just like it used
> to be the only way to build a router with high throughput and low latency
> was hardware based with ASICs and CAM.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2018 8:56 PM
> *To:* AFMUG <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Router vulnerability
>
>
>
> There is nothing more annoying than trying to match up a version of Java
> with ASDM.  I think you have a good strategy.
>
>
>
> I mostly agree with everyone else here.  The config is archaic, and there
> are other options now that are easier and and can be just as robust.  I
> don't care how "enterprise" you are.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 9:20 PM Larry Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> True on pretty much all counts,
> but, when dealing with certain "audit" agencies
> (especially for banks), if you have anything other than
> a name brand (Cisco ASA) firewall then you have 3,987 more
> pages of paperwork to fill out and justify your reasons/selection.
>
>  We maintain several, you just keep a virtual PC with each version
> of ASDM and the appropriate JAVA (they only talk realiably to one
> specific version for each version of ASDM) and there's nothing to it.
>
> --
> Larry Smith
> [email protected]
>
> On Thu November 15 2018 18:58, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > If it’s company CEO, they should purchase Smartnet contract and keep the
> > firmware updated.  That’s about the only way you are going to fix
> > vulnerabilities, hope Cisco fixes them, and keep up with the latest
> > firmware.
> >
> >
> >
> > IMHO the only reason to have a Cisco  ASA at home is he needs a
> > site-to-site VPN to an ASA at the office.  Meaning he has multiple
> devices
> > at home that need to work across the VPN, otherwise he could probably
> use a
> > software VPN client on his computer.  Or maybe non computer devices like
> > his phone needs to work across the VPN.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also IMHO if this is the case, he needs a Cisco security
> trained/certified
> > IT person to manage it.  I was OK dealing with IOS but the ASA series I
> > always found very difficult to configure and maintain, I pretty much
> > wouldn’t touch them.  One of my customers who had ASAs at HQ and every
> > branch office had a big IT company under contract to do all their ASA
> > maintenance and even though they were supposedly Cisco experts, they
> would
> > screw up and mess everything up trying to do a simple change and end up
> > taking a whole day to get it working again.
> >
> >
> >
> > A common approach seems to be start with ASDM to get a basic working
> config
> > because you’ll never get there from the command line, but then SSH in and
> > do the rest of the config manually.  Then be sure to save a copy of the
> > config for when you inevitably break everything trying to make a change.
> >
> >
> >
> > If the CEO just needs a fancy router, there are probably better choices
> > than an ASA.  Just not a Sonicwall.  Maybe a nice Netgear AX8, which will
> > look it’s about to take off and fly around the living room.  Or maybe a
> > nice Google WiFi, he can put one in every room.
> >
> >
> >
> > But you’re probably going to say it’s the VPN thing.  Some people say
> it’s
> > because they need a true firewall, not just a router.  But then I ask
> them
> > what custom firewall rules they defined.  And who monitors the IDS logs
> and
> > responds to the identified threats.  If the answers are none and nobody,
> > then it’s just an expensive router.  And BTW, in my experience ASAs are
> > like every other router, first troubleshooting step is to power cycle
> them
> > and see if the VPN light comes back on.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have some customers now using firewall appliances at every site that
> they
> > contract out to a big telco which I think is using firewall appliances
> > based on pfSense.  I don’t really know enough to have an opinion, but
> that
> > seems a reasonable way to go.  No Cisco maintenance contract to buy just
> to
> > get firmware updates.  Just finding someone to sell you Smartnet is a
> pain,
> > I used to call up a place like CDW.  I swear Cisco doesn’t really want
> your
> > business unless you’re a Fortune 500 company, or government, or a big
> > telco.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2018 5:32 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Router vulnerability
> >
> >
> >
> > Friend has one for ceo of his company...can you point me to sure for
> ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018, 12:15 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:
> >
> > Who's using an ASA at home?
> >
> >
> >
> > ASA has a bunch of vulnerabilities - most fixed, some not...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Jaime Solorza <
> [email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> >
> > What is the latest on router vulnerability to hacks on ASA and home
> > versions?
> >
> >
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