The SR400ac has mesh wifi feature now using a second one as a wired AP. Not
quite the same as the calix wireless mesh extender though.

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:36 PM Charles Boening <[email protected] wrote:

> +1
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>
> We went with SmartRG back when it was ClearAccess (just over 10 years
> now).  IMO they have the nicest ACS out there.  Couple that with their new
> analytics <https://www.smartrg.com/home-analytics> and it’s a nice win.
>
>
>
> We are deploying the SR555ac <https://www.smartrg.com/sr555ac> as a
> single device for Ethernet, xDSL and bonded xDSL.
>
>
>
> I just wish SmartRG had a nice whole home wireless setup.  Something where
> we could deploy range extenders or whole home wireless that worked with the
> router to keep SSID and security in sync.  I heard they were coming out
> with something this year but haven’t seen it yet.
>
>
>
> SmartRG is looking at TR-143 for FCC testing.  They say they should have
> something in Q2 2019.
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> Charlie
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Chris Fabien
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 7:10 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?
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> Ken
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> We evaluated about 8 routers a couple years ago wanting a solid managed
> wifi offering. Calix GigaCenter 844E and SmartRG  SR400AC were standouts
> from the rest of the lot which included cambium, ready net, ignitenet and a
> few consumer routers for comparison. Between the two the 844E had slightly
> higher 5ghz speeds but the 2.4 range was better on SmartRG.
>
>
>
> Ultimately we decided smartrg was a better fit for us from how they priced
> the management platform and also the Calix required a DHCP option to set a
> provisioning URL which our powercode BMU was unable to provide. So that
> broke the zero touch config. SmartRG routers phone home to a redirect
> server and they maintain a list if what MACs were sold to who so your units
> end up in your device manager system without any input from your network.
> Works great.
>
>
>
> Overall we are happy with them. The Smartrg "home analytics" is TR161
> based where it logs wifi signal and usage info from each device in the
> home. The Calix solution was more of a traffic analysis system to sort
> usage by application. I am not sure if it ties that to a device or not.
> Essentially when the customer calls up asking why was Netflix buffering
> last night, SmartRG gives you the info to say, dads laptop with a poor wifi
> signal was doing some kind of large transfer and hogging all the Wifi
> airtime, while calix gives you the answer, some device was doing a windows
> update and hogging all the bandwidth. At least that was my take on it 2
> years ago.
>
>
>
> I've also found the SmartRG people more accessible to work with. Calix had
> a serious superiority complex attitude problem. That extended to their
> pricing. Actually the 844E was very competitive but anything with GPON in
> it they priced as if it were solid gold. It's like they do not realize GPON
> is 15? Years old technology and should be a commodity priced thing like
> gigabit ethernet switches. Calix GPON doesnt work any faster than my cheap
> chinese GPON stuff although there are some bells and whistles you don't get
> with ZTE. However my customers dont pay me extra for the GPON shelf having
> bells and whistles.
>
>
>
> So, that's how we ended up with ZTE GPON and SmartRG router behind it.
> Although SmartRG is supposedly releasing a SR900? Which has an SFP WAN port
> with several options for wan interface ( GPON, AE BiDi, VDSL, gigE)
>
>
>
> Hope that's helpful info
>
> Chris
>
>
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> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 9:25 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] wrote:
>
> I should add that I talked to Mike Carpinelli at WISPAmerica in March 2016
> and he has been returning my emails and had actually set up a time for a
> conference.  But as I plowed through all the documentation on the Calix
> site, I couldn’t find any of the basic information most vendors give you,
> basically a getting started guide.  What are you  going to need, a
> step-by-step guide to hooking it all up, and screenshots of the GUI that
> your people will see, and that your customers will see.
>
>
>
> Furthermore, from the discussion here, it seems even WISPs that are using
> Calix products aren’t clear on Calix Cloud vs Consumer Connect, are they
> the same thing, are they different.  It seems like one is too expensive,
> and the other has the secret sauce and without it you’re missing half the
> features.  Or maybe they are different names for the same thing.  Very
> confusing.
>
>
>
> Originally I thought I just needed to order a handful of devices for lab
>  and beta testing, and that we’d learn through the hands-on experience.
> But I backed off when I found the documentation wasn’t telling me any of
> the things I needed to know.  Clearly just getting some devices in my hands
> wasn’t going to resolve the knowledge gap, if I was finding the
> documentation totally unhelpful.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *[email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 7:00 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?
>
>
>
> Cory is about as official as it gets.
>
>
>
> *From:* Adam Moffett
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 4:28 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?
>
>
>
> I would love to see "official" answers.  I'm looking at routers and
> managed WiFi for an FTTH build passing around 10,000 households.  I haven't
> made any commitments yet, so I'd be willing to talk about Calix.
>
> On 11/19/2018 6:13 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Actually this is the beginning.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 16, 2018 8:50 AM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?
>
>
>
> For those of you who’ve successfully deployed Calix:
>
>
>
> I’ve been wanting to do something with the 844E and 804 since WISPAmerica
> 2.5 years ago, but I feel like I’m at the starting line of a marathon with
> my feet stuck in buckets full of concrete.
>
>
>
> Calix has tons of documentation, and after reading it, I feel about 1%
> smarter.  I don’t know what the end user or a tech sees as an interface for
> analytics and troubleshooting and tweaking settings.  I don’t know if you
> can do a standalone implementation with just the Calix Cloud and some
> Gigacenters and Mesh units, I get the impression you  need to mess with
> APIs and tie into all sorts of operations systems that we don’t have.  I’m
> not even clear on whether we need to set up some kind of on-network TR-069
> server, or if that’s all a cloud service hosted by Calix.
>
>
>
> Is the Calix stuff relatively straightforward to use, on a par with
> Cambium cnPilot and cnMaestro Cloud?  And maybe Calix documentation is just
> very confusing or I’m being stupid?  Or are these things pretty complicated
> to incorporate into a WISP network and get all the advantages of the
> devices and cloud management?
>
>
>
> I’m trying to decide whether to keep struggling and get more help from
> Calix, or give up.
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