OFS has some pretty strong ADSS that could be useful for this.  It comes in
strand quantities of 12 or more, but I think it tops out around 400-450' at
NESC heavy, so it may not have quite the span length you need depending on
your ice loading region.

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 12:18 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> The need I'm filling is sometimes you want to be able to hit a house on
> a side road or a long driveway.  The existing poles might be 500+ feet
> apart because that was sufficient for the electric co.  A flat drop in a
> heavy ice loading area isn't recommended for more than 150 feet (per
> Corning).  I don't want to run messenger strand and thru-bolts and all
> that just to hit one house.
>
> Last time I looked at ADSS what I saw was the strength component was
> around the outside of the cable, and consequently they got stronger as
> the diameter went up.  So a 12F ADSS was actually no stronger than an
> ordinary flat drop cable, but a 144F was super strong. I dismissed it
> for this purpose because I didn't think I'd want to pay for 144F for
> drops.  I was looking at one brand and model, so maybe that's not true
> in all cases.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 12/10/2018 12:49 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > If you are in need of a dielectric aerial fiber cable, keep in mind that
> there's a large assortment of ADSS cables available from different vendors.
> There are versions suitable for very long spans and any count you'd like.
> ADSS cables can be more cost effective than figure-8, but it depends on
> your circumstances. The main downside is that ADSS requires compatible
> hanging hardware and you can't overlash additional cables on it.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018
> > From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Corning cable for long drops
> >
> > The vendor says he's working with corning on the proper hanging hardware.
> >
> >
> > On 12/8/2018 8:39 PM, [email protected][mailto:[email protected]] wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if they have special grips for it.  Like a wirevise:
> >
> https://shop.ptsupply.com/shop/hardware/aerial/5058/maclean-senior-industries-llc-wirevise-109-ca07625[https://shop.ptsupply.com/shop/hardware/aerial/5058/maclean-senior-industries-llc-wirevise-109-ca07625]
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Adam Moffett
> > Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 6:17 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Corning cable for long drops
> >
> > Cost unknown at this point, but I should have a quote next week.  As
> long as it's cheaper than hanging a messenger strand to hit one house then
> I've got uses for it.
> >
> >
> > On 12/8/2018 8:03 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
> > What's the cost? Would it be robust enough to hang and mainline on a
> rural sideroad?
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 7:08 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]
> wrote:This drop cable looks basically like a figure-8 cable, but it's all
> > dielectric.
> > It's exactly what I've been hunting for:  A solution for rural drops on
> > long spans in heavy ice load areas, and no steel so no grounding.
> >
> > It's a full 0.5" wide so you have to get some extra wide hangers to go
> > with it.
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