Yeah, we had a few of those back in the day... if they had had the brains
to connect the outlets to the normally closed side of the relays, I
probably would have kept using them...

having a device that's supposed to save you from needing to manually reset
things be the cause of everything dying makes me very unhappy... especially
when everything would have kept working perfectly fine with a design change
that would have amounted to nothing more than connecting a few wires in a
different place.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 12:50 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we have dozens of those things.  Probably 3 or 4 have died, and
> apparently the relays are normally open because when they die all the
> outlets are OFF.  The web GUI dying was an issue on the earlier revision.
>
> The main draw to digital loggers is they're cheap and they're so simple
> a caveman could reboot stuff.  If I put in a site monitor and explain to
> somebody "set the relay cycle column to 100 to reboot something" I don't
> think that sticks as easily.
>
> The other problem I have is not with the digital loggers unit
> specifically, but once you have the reboot switch it can become a crutch
> if the tech has the wrong perspective on it.  If they reboot the device
> and think, "There, I fixed it" then you may realize one day that there's
> been a daily recurring issue that they "fix" every time by rebooting.
> They can lean on the reboot switch so they never try to address the
> underlying problem.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On 1/31/2019 3:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > Maybe they cleaned up their problems, but years ago (probably 10), they
> had
> > serious problems, and many people on the lists said they would never use
> > their products again.  My experience was every time we needed to reboot
> > something, the web GUI was locked up, and we had to do a truck roll AND
> > reboot the web power switch which also rebooted everything plugged into
> it.
> > Which made it worse than useless, we would have been better off just
> > plugging everything directly into AC power and driving there to reboot
> > devices.
> >
> > I guess my view is, with so many other choices, why buy one that gave us
> > such trouble at one point?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
> > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 2:33 PM
> > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Watchdog Device
> >
> > They have been great for us.  Only one failure I can think of and they
> > replaced it straight away.
> >
> > We have moved over to the Pros now and these are holding up well.
> >
> > I just wish they would do this model in a rack mount version....
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 2:25 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Watchdog Device
> >
> > Have they improved the durability of their stuff?   We went through so
> > many of the older versions that we gave up on them as a vendor.   They
> > were great at replacing them but you can only have so many failures to
> deal
> > with...
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > On 01/30/2019 12:44 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> >> Digital Loggers Pro Switch does that for 8 sockets, and you get 8
> >> sockets to control remotely.
> >>
> >> https://www.digital-loggers.com/lpc.html
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 2:36 PM
> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Watchdog Device
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of a inexpensive device that will ping an IP address
> >> and if it misses so many pings power cycle an AC outlet?
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