While the AF-11 used a 56 MHz chipset, the radio occupies 79.6 MHz - unlike all 
other radios with these chips that limit their bw to 56 MHz (this used to be 
the ETSI maximum).  The AF-11 system gain is horrible for 1024 QAM when 
compared to other outdoor radios - either full 60 MHz or full 80 MHz bw.

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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Interesting, so I'm guessing that they're able to reduce the noise to an 
> acceptable level at that high of power by using a narrower channel... kind of 
> like what Ubiquiti did with the AirFiber 11.
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 1:54 PM Tim Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Just an FYI..
>> According to this chart, the occupied bandwidth is only 64.5 MHz so you will 
>> be losing capacity vs radios that occupy the full 80 MHz bandwidth.  The DW 
>> radio will have to be coordinated and licensed in one of the 80 MHz channel 
>> allocations as there are no FCC channel plans between 51 MHz and 79 MHz.  
>> There are only 4-channel pairs available at 80 MHz and its difficult to 
>> coordinate multiple pairs in many areas as a result.  Finally, while these 
>> power levels are impressive, they don't tell the full story and you really 
>> need to compare the system gain values at the desired modulations.  The DW 
>> 64.5 MHz radio’s system gain at 2048 QAM is 83 dB vs. the WTM 4100 80 MHz  
>> radio’s system gain at 2048 QAM which will be 73.5 dB.
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 12:19 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +31 is the advertised 2048QAM output on the HP variant. Dragonwave 
>>> contacted me offline and is indicating a March availability. Here is the 
>>> table of power output levels for that radio. It should also support 
>>> 4096QAM, but I’m not sure if that’s available in the software yet.
>>>  
>>> <image001.png>
>>>  
>>> Peter Kranz
>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>> [email protected]
>>>  
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:27 PM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>>>  
>>> Looks like PTP820c is only +16.
>>>  
>>> You’re talking about xmt power actually at 2048QAM modulation, right?  +31 
>>> is hard to believe.
>>>  
>>> I remember hearing that Broadcom was supposed to have a chip with adaptive 
>>> digital predistortion for high xmt power also 4096QAM not sure if that 
>>> became real.
>>>  
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 6:51 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Higher power 18Ghz radios..
>>>  
>>> Dragonwave announced over a year ago the Harmony Enhanced 18HP, with +31 TX 
>>> power at 2048 QAM, but have never made it to production as far as I know. 
>>> From the top of my head, here are some of the major radios TX power in 18 
>>> Ghz band:
>>>  
>>> Dragonwave Harmony Enahcend HP – 31 <Vaporware?>
>>> Dragonwave Harmony Enhanced SP – 22
>>> Bridgewave Navigator – 19
>>> Aviat WTM 4200 – 17.5
>>> SIAE AlfoPlus2 – 17
>>>  
>>> Curious if anyone is aware of an 18Ghz dual core radio capable of higher TX 
>>> power at 2048QAM? It’s quite difficult to license 6Ghz or 11Ghz paths in my 
>>> market.
>>>  
>>> Peter Kranz
>>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>>> Mobile: 510-207-0000
>>> [email protected]
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