Switch mode regulator.  

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> On Mar 2, 2019, at 7:21 AM, [email protected] 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> USB is preferred input so the battery isn't drawn down during normal 
> operation. I'm drawing
> about 2.2W under normal operation. Is there another chip you'd recommend 
> other than
> the AZ2117?
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 3:51 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Oh this is an easy answer.
>> 
>> At 12V, the AC2117 is dropping about 8 of those volts.
>> 8V*400mA=3.2W.   Thermal resistance to the heatsink on this part is
>> 100C/W.   So with a room temperatureish heatsink at 30*C, you're going
>> to end up with a junction temperature of  100C/W * 3.6W = 320C + 30*C
>> = 350C.    This is above the absolute maximum operating temperature
>> range of 150*C.
>> 
>> The most you can draw through this with an 8V drop and an appropriate
>> heatsink not exceeding 150*C (I'm assuming it gets a bit warm) is 150C
>> - 50C = 100C.   100C/W means this part can dissipate at most 1W with
>> an adequate heatsink.   This equates to 1W/8V = 125mA max with a 12V
>> input voltage.
>> 
>> If you don't have an adequate heatsink or the temperature gets higher
>> this is even lower, since the rating without a heatsink is 125C/W.
>> 
>> Note that this isn't a problem off of USB because the AZ2117 doesn't
>> drop much voltage, so even at 1V of drop, you'd only have
>> 1V*400mA=400mW of power dissipation, and the unit should be able to
>> handle this even without a heatsink.
>> 
>> ALSO:  Could you clarify here if the USB is the preferred input?  If
>> not, one could rip out IC2, R26, R3 and Q1 and replace it with another
>> diode.
>> ALSO: Not sure why the indicator leds are done the way they are - they
>> probably work, but seems like overkill.
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:14 PM [email protected]
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Schematics attached. The main issue I'm having is when powered via USB, 
>> > everything works fine. When powered via a 12V car battery, the
>> > chips seem to not have enough power. There are two comparator circuits, 
>> > one to monitor USB/Batt and report how the unit is being powered.
>> > The 2nd actually provides the power. One chip will occasionally draw 
>> > ~150-400ma of power causing the board to lock up. Chips are powered
>> > via Vin.
>> >
>> > What I don't understand is why everything works perfectly on USB but has 
>> > issues when powered via 12V.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 11:53 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Circle of stability, miller capacitance all good stuff.
>> >>
>> >> From: Mark Radabaugh
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:48 AM
>> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EE Consultant
>> >>
>> >> Oh sure, now you probably want me to believe transistors have states 
>> >> other than off and on.
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 26, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > And good luck finding an analog circuit guy anymore ;-)
>> >>
>> >> That’s what I was.  Not much demand, that’s why I’ve been doing other 
>> >> things for over 20 years.  Actually made the switch to engineering 
>> >> management in the 80’s but still did some design work for another 10 
>> >> years because all the engineers wanted to do digital and processor 
>> >> designs.  I still have the books, the brain is rusty though.
>> >>
>> >> I tried to convince the new engineers that high speed digital design 
>> >> meant knowing analog, RF and microstrip techniques, but they weren’t 
>> >> buying it.  Getting their products through regulatory emissions testing 
>> >> did give them a bit of religion.
>> >>
>> >> I still remember laying out PCBs using red and blue tape.
>> >>
>> >> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:09 AM
>> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EE Consultant
>> >>
>> >> Yep - I’m qualified to answer some things and would be totally lost on 
>> >> others.   EE has become a huge field with many many disciplines.
>> >>
>> >> And good luck finding an analog circuit guy anymore ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Analog?  Digital?  Even with those there tend to be specialties like 
>> >> emissions, safety, PLD/ASIC design, microprocessor/microcontroller, RF, 
>> >> etc.  Or do you need a generalist?
>> >>
>> >> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 8:33 AM
>> >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EE Consultant
>> >>
>> >> Having an issue with a circuit design, anyone know a good electrical 
>> >> engineer they can
>> >> recommend?
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