You own them, they could be revenue if built to the standards of someone 
wanting to rent them. 
I don’t know of a recurring permit fee to put up poles or bury cable.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 9:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - ROI

If you are in an empty ROW, what happens if you put up your own poles? Is this 
now a source of potential revenue, or do you still own them? Is there a 
recurring permit fee to place poles?

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 9:34 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  Chris,

  We went with standard 1x2 and 1x4 splitters.  If I remember, I'll post our 
diagram when I get to the office on Monday.


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  Friday, March 1, 2019, 11:48:53 AM, you wrote:


       Chuck
        Here is a quick sketch of the optical tap split we use. Each handhole 
uses a custom ratio FBT splitter to peel off a small bit of light from the 
mainline fiber, and then a normal PLC to break that up further to the required 
number of customers. If you are at all familiar with CATV this is essentially 
the same thing that coax taps do, just with light. The appropriate FBT ratio 
has to be picked at each handhole, and it steps up in % as you go down the 
line. 

        You can chain as many as 15-20 of these taps in a line using just one 
mainline strand, depending on split ratio, distance, and GPON optical budget. 
We run ZTE using class C++ OLT optics and run this system out to about 30km and 
still can split to cover about 20 houses over a mile of road. 

        We normally run rural mainline direct buried. When your mainlin cable 
is 18 cents a foot  35 cents for duct just blows the budget plus it adds 
another work step blowing or pulling the cable into the duct. 


        On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:11 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

             Chris,
              I would love to have you post a schematic diagram of your low 
count PON system.  
              Do you use duct or direct burial?

              From: Chris Fabien
              Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 9:00 AM
              To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber - ROI

              We do fiber in 5-20 houses per mile areas. You have to get the 
cost down as much as possible. We plow most of our mainline direct buried, 
often use a 12-count tonable flat drop as mainline on side roads.  With the 
right GPON splitting topology you can feed several hundred houses on a 12-count 
fiber. If the area is rural enough to not have a lot of paved driveways you can 
cover a lot of ground fast plowing.    Cheap electronics like ZTE or UBNT. 
Everythign fusion spliced because splicing labor is cheaper for us than the 
fancy connectorized systems. 

              Permitting cost will vary by area, our costs are $500 for the 
first mile and $50 per additional mile, one time fee. 



              On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:54 AM Matt Hoppes 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                   I’m looking at running fiber to some very rural areas. 

                    Even if I get grant funding to run it. How are those of you 
doing it making the ongoing ROI when you might have 5 houses each mile?

                    Pole rentals are $15-$17/ea per year. 

                    Is trenching normally something you pay the state/county 
per mile?  Per once permit?

                    Does anyone know of a company I can consult with that will 
design and engineer FTTH networks?

                    Chuck - are you still accepting folks to come down with you 
for a week to learn your ways of fiber?
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