Commscope. Try a couple of distributors. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 22690 Pemberville Rd Luckey, OH 43447 419-261-5996
> On Mar 26, 2019, at 2:36 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > What platform and where for those prices? > > -----Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe > Brothers WISP > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 11:20:57 -0500 (CDT) > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [*] Re: MSTs > > I think the two of you are debating apples and oranges :-) > > > There are cases like the Coyote ATC > http://preformed.com/communications/fiber-networks/coyote-fiber-optic-closures/coyote-atc-aerial-terminal-closure > > <http://preformed.com/communications/fiber-networks/coyote-fiber-optic-closures/coyote-atc-aerial-terminal-closure> > that have two compartments - once for splicing onto the main line and one on > the other side for drop cables using standard SC connectors. > > There are also MST based cases with the same idea - a spice case side and a > couple of MST ports. > > The disadvantage to the combined splice case and drop case is that you have > to put one at every location you want to have drops, or run a lot of long > parallel drop cables from pole to pole. The combined cases are also > normally installed in-line without slack storage. If you do that it means > all of your splicing and repair work needs to be done in the air from a > bucket truck. Depending on where you are located that might be an > acceptable option - or it might completely suck. Personally in NW Ohio it > completely sucks from November to March trying to work fiber in a bucket. > > By keeping the splice case and the MST (or the drop case) separate you can > minimize the number of splice cases by putting 3, 4 or more multiport cables > into one splice case. At the middle pole put a splice case and a 50’ stub > MST (with 2-12 drop ports) on a 100’ slack loop. At the poles on either side > (or all sides if this is a X intersection) put MST’s with 250/350/450/750’ > tails into the splice case and then place the MST’s on the outer poles. > This way you have one splice case that you put on a snowshoe and hang it back > on the line with MST’s on the central pole and all the surrounding poles. > You can do all the splicing and repair work on the ground in a nice warm > trailer. This same method could be used with a case made just for drops or > by not using the splicing side of a ATC type of case if you really prefer > that method. > > 4 port MST’s with 250’ tails can be had in bulk for ~$100, 8 port for ~$150. > Drop cables with one Opti-tap end vary from ~$45 to $100 depending on > length. The advantage to a OptiTap style cable is you can send pretty much > any trained monkey out to plug one in. No special knowledge is needed other > than "don’t touch the end of the connector” and it can be done in pretty much > any weather in less than a minute. > > Mark > > > >> On Mar 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I'm comfortable saying that the installer is less likely to cause a problem >> opening the box and plugging in a cable than he is doing a ring cut and >> monkeying with bare fibers. You can also definitely plug in an SC connector >> from the bucket with gloves on a heck of a lot faster than you can take the >> closure down into your van or get a tent set up on the bucket. >> >> I can also get a mechanical field install-able connector for a couple bucks, >> or an SOC for $8. The mechanical connector takes about 30 seconds and the >> SOC takes maybe 2 minutes. What's an opti-tap cost? I'm not asking to be a >> wise-ass, I literally don't know, but when I look at them I see dollar signs. >> >> I can't speak authoritatively to the contamination question. Some dust or >> pollen must get in there when you open it, but isn't that true any time I >> open a splice closure? Again, honest question, not trying to be rhetorical. >> >> -Adam >> >> >>> On 3/26/2019 7:59 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> So you feel comfortable enough with the design that when someone opens the >>> box for an install or other service, that the contamination, disruption of >>> existing service is minimized? That seemed to be at the heart of what MST >>> or Opti-Tap type solutions are solving. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 2:56:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MSTs >>> >>> Look at Commscope OFDC or Multilink Optima-S >>> They're almost identical in concept, but the OFDC seems a bit higher >>> quality to me. >>> >>> You get a weather proof door for the installer to open up and insert his >>> drop cable, and he just plugs it in with an SC-APC connector (or whatever >>> connector you tell them to put in it). There's a separate door you open to >>> access splice trays and buffer tubes. No special hardened connectors. >>> I've seen Opti-Tap, but I didn't look at it seriously.....I guess I have a >>> bias against weird connectors. >>> >>> >>> On 3/25/2019 8:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> Who all makes MST-style systems? >>> >>> Who all makes interoperable ones? I understand many use OptiTap, so I'd >>> assume everyone using OptiTap is interchangable. >>> >>> What do I need to know about MST-style systems? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
