Would you be allowed to ramp up the RF and see what levels cause what kinds of 
problems?

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CAT5. FM. And Rain

Do you have perhaps a grounding issue at one end or the other?  Most ethernet 
devices have phy transformers that ground directly or through a capacitor.  
Ground potential differences between one end and the other can cause a problem 
like this.

If you are connected to an earth ground that changes with moisture then perhaps 
a ground loop is causing problems.  This seems backwards but it may be ground 
related somehow.  

Fiber
Spray water
Liquidtight

I hate to suggest the intermod theory as it seems a bit unlikely to have 
intermod strong enough to interfere with an ethernet signal, but not too many 
things left to think.  



From: Matt Hoppes 
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 10:41 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CAT5. FM. And Rain

The issue has gotten worse over the last two years. With it be terrible right 
now. 

We just reran cable last month. All new cable and radios. And still having the 
issue. 

On Apr 20, 2019, at 12:03, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:


  You would have to climb it with a garden sprayer strapped to your back.
  I am more of the opinion of the corroded RJ45.  

  From: Matt Hoppes 
  Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 8:42 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: CAT5. FM. And Rain

  Not in liquidtight. 

  Have ground lifted and grounded. No change. 

  Have not wet things (would be difficult - no ready source of water)

  Obviously RF is getting into the Ethernet, when things are wet. I’m just 
trying to figure out why. Clearly a connection is being made somewhere it 
shouldn’t be. 



  On Apr 20, 2019, at 09:58, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:


    So moisture + rf = Ethernet interference.  Just as originally stated.  No 
standing waves.       
    Is your cat5 in liquidtight?  Have you played with grounding & ungrounding 
the shields?  How about taking a garden sprayer and selectively wetting things?


    Sent from my iPhone

    Begin forwarded message:


      From: Matt Hoppes <[email protected]>
      Date: April 20, 2019 at 7:52:12 AM MDT
      To: Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAT5. FM. And Rain


      Yes. Problem goes away. 


        On Apr 20, 2019, at 09:51, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:



        Have you killed the ref when you are having the problem?  Might not be 
ref related.



        Sent from my iPhone



          On Apr 19, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Matt Hoppes 
<[email protected]> wrote:



          19watts



            On 4/19/19 8:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            What is the reflected power when you are having problems?

            Sent from my iPhone

              On Apr 19, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Matt Hoppes 
<[email protected]> wrote:



              My thoughts too. But the reflected power right now is only 
19watts out of 9,000.



                On Apr 19, 2019, at 20:14, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:



                My guess is that the FM station has a problem with the antenna 
or transmission line.  Moisture throws off impedance somewhere and you have a 
strong standing wave on the transmission line.  Probably a bad connector.



                Sent from my iPhone



                  On Apr 19, 2019, at 5:52 PM, Matt Hoppes 
<[email protected]> wrote:



                  Looking to the wisdom of the AF group on this.



                  I have some equipment on an FM tower.  It’s a 9kw station 
around 150ft. We are at 250ft with two sectors and a backhaul.  Netonix switch 
in shelter.



                  Nothing else on the tower.



                  Normally all is fine.   When it rains or is very moist out 
(heavy heavy fog) we start having major Ethernet negotiation issues.   The 
ports will go from 1Gig to 10F sometimes. Sometimes drop completely.



                  I’ve got ferrite beads wrapped about 5 times top and bottom.



                  Any further words of wisdom on what to try?  I suspect some 
odd grounding issue. But not sure how to track it down or isolate it.

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