Ken a 56VDC PoE will work.  I don't recall the exact input voltage but its fairly wide.

No splitter on the 106 like the Lumina Steve.

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Ken Hohhof wrote on 6/11/19 23:41:

Not sure what you  mean by top end thief, is that a POE extractor?  These radios just have an RJ45 for passive 48V POE. Data on 1,2,3,6 and power on 4,5,7,8.  When I put the Mikrotik in the middle, I actually bypassed power around it using a couple keystsone jacks.  Radio reports something like 43V and seems happy with it.  I’m having trouble finding an equivalent POE, everything I have is either 56V, with the exception of some spare POEs I had for WiMAX CPE and they are only rated for 19W.  Since it’s power on separate pairs and not GigE, I guess I could just wire up a 48V Mean Well power supply to the power pairs.

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Have you swapped out the poe and top end thief?

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 9:02 PM Daniel White <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yea I know a lot about those radios.  They are pretty close to the
    Lumina radios actually, and have very little in common with the
    Freemile.  A CFIP-106 and a Lumina can actually link to each
    other... a Freemile and CFIP-106 would not (different modems).

    First I'd ask if you reached out to SAF support?  I'd bet they
    wouldn't hesitate to help you with it.  Even then... I'd bet if
    they can they would be willing to repair it (of course for a fee)
    if they can.

    My gut says that something on the radio is failing.  If SAF will
    sell you a Freemile link you can reuse the antennas (if they have
    the adapters for those arkivator antennas). An Integra 24GHz might
    be able to use those antennas as well.

    Either way... I'd make plans to replace the link.  But call the
    SAF support team in Denver first.

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    Ken Hohhof wrote on 6/11/19 20:24:

        Since I now have it bridged through 2 ports on a  Mikrotik
        that I control, I tried disabling and enabling the Mikrotik
        port, that didn’t fix it.  Last thing I did today was bypass
        the surge suppressor, I don’t have high hopes for that, but
        I’m running out of things to try.  If it would go down and
        stay down I could actually troubleshoot it better, but by the
        time I get there it’s back up and stays up for a day or two.

        CFIP 106 is the Fast Ethernet product, no fiber port.  I’m not
        sure if it would talk to a Lumina or more likely a Freemile.

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        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone familiar with troubleshooting
        SAF CFIP 106 24 GHz?

        It is similar to the lumina, our workaround for this is a
        script in the mikrotik to turn the port on and off. Or switch
        over to the multimode fiber port. Only issue is i suspect we
        got the last two adapters they must have had last year cause
        one looked like a well worn bench tester. If its got the
        original suppressors, may bypass or replace those, or replace
        the POE thief

        On Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:43 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Anybody intimately familiar with this (discontinued)
            product?  We installed one 8 years ago for a customer
            between 2 of their buildings, have not touched it since
            then and we have not had remote management of it.  It’s
            the only SAF link I’ve ever dealt with.

            One side has started dropping the Ethernet link randomly
            for about an hour every few days (both the radio and the
            router see the Ethernet link down).  I thought maybe the
            cable was too long, but we put a Mikrotik mid span so the
            cable is now only 140 feet and it happened again this morning.

            They don’t make this anymore, so I can’t just replace the
            radio to see if that fixes it.  I would have to do
            something like swap the radios between the 2 ends and see
            if the problem moves.

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