This is true, but that's why you acquire other ISPs, purchase IPv4 on
the auction block, etc. And once that runs out, CGNAT is really not
all that complicated or expensive to deploy.... compared to deploying
IPv6 which is still very much a "beta" protocol.
There are client devices that are broken and don't properly handle IPv6,
there is confusion and argument over how best to deploy IPv6, large
sections of the Internet still don't support IPv6, the the way IPv6 was
designed and implemented screams of "Engineers" vs "Usability".
On 10/23/19 11:25 AM, dave wrote:
Meh, good luck with that LOL.. We'll be seeing you on the other side
Its not that ipv4 is going away at all its that you can just walk into
the arin store and purchase large public block for your use for much longer.
IPV6 is plentiful and a green pasture of natural selection.
On 10/23/19 8:01 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
FUD ALERT! FUD ALERT! IPv4 is not going away any time soon, it's
not practical. There are too many things that rely on IPv4. And
until I can run only one stack I'm not planning to mass deploy IPv6.
We have an IPv6 deployment plan, but there is minimal benefit in dual
stacking and no financial gain until we need to.
Right now there is a negative benefit for deploying IPv6 (overhead,
management, no ROI, can't bill customers for static IPs).
We have a plan, but until it's needed we don't plan to roll it out.
IPv4 will be here for many years to come.
On 10/23/19 8:54 AM, dave via AF wrote:
Yeah.. No..
They are more up to date than you think just not ahead
On 10/21/19 2:20 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
yeah, no.
.gov agencies still run dos
10 years at best til the ones that matter will be organized enough
to shut down ip4 access
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dennis Burgess via AF
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Keep in mind that IPv6 will be necessary within 2-4 years, if the
.govs shutdown access via v4 for security reasons. No more FCC/
IRS or any .GOV unless over v6. Note that the current plan is 2-3
years, I have given it an extra year for measure!
V6 should be deployed NOW. Not later, when you HAVE TO. Then
you will be making mistakes etc.
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*From:* AF <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
*Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space
NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking for more IP space
IP6 is still years out for us
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:43 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
If you're not doing it already, start thinking about dual
stack with IPv4 CGN and IPv6 public IPs. There's a learning
curve, but it's not that bad.
-Adam
On 10/21/2019 12:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Where is the best place to get these? How do we verify
space has a decent reputation so we dont go through months
of cleanup and all that stuff?
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