Antennas are certainly a concern. Polarity as well. Broadband discones are probably the easiest solutions. Gain is obviously nonexistent on them but having enough sensors deployed overcomes some of that limitation. I think the sensors are sampling at narrower channel sizes so we pick up sensitivity there (not much unlike how LTE gear reports signal levels of the narrow pilot signal only).
At this point just detecting for active signal would be a huge benefit. Decoding signals and/or protocols would be a challenge and a next step I suppose. The whole world can benefit from this project by just being able to detect spectrum occupation in the frequency and time domain. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 1:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Live Spectrum sensing network open source project You will need a broadband omni. Not probably V pol. Slant pol would pick up both. Omni slant pols are not easy to make. Nor are H pol omnis. Broadband H pol omni could be especially difficult. I guess an array of bow ties combined could do the H pol and a double cone or a disk cone could do the V. What are others using for this? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 10:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Live Spectrum sensing network open source project No, the SDR definitely isn't outdoor friendly... it plugs straight into a USB port, but it's just got an SMA connector on it, so it shouldn't be too big of a deal to just throw everything in an outdoor box of some sort. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:43 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: *nods* We would need an outdoor-friendly housing. Is the SDR outdoor-friendly? ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 11:37:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Live Spectrum sensing network open source project resistance is futile looking at the kit, it looks like no housing may bery well fit right inside a mccownteech SS housing, just sayin On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:30 AM <[email protected]> wrote: (resisting urge to volunteer.... resisting....) From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 10:24 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Live Spectrum sensing network open source project Not having looked at the design, because its outside of my scope. Whats the price per unit built? Could afmug do a small money drive to fund a production run and get us access to some of them free sensors <insert "yall got any more of them sensors" gif here>? speaking of money drives, is it time for a mailing list funding drive? On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 11:09 AM Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote: Looks like they did a limited production run and are giving the board out to those they grant application for a free sensor to, but they do list the design on GitHub https://github.com/electrosense/hardware so I guess it would not be a stretch to get a group production run organized. https://electrosense.org/open-source Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, December 06, 2019 11:40 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Live Spectrum sensing network open source project What is the extension board good for? <https://electrosense.org/> The RTL-SDR dongle used on our sensors has a limited frequency range between 24 and 1766MHz. This is already pretty good, but more interesting bands can be found above this limit. For this purpose, we have created an extension board that enables us to scan frequencies up to 6GHz which includes common ISM bands with lots of applications. Where does one get such extension board? ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Brian Webster" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 10:24:31 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Live Spectrum sensing network open source project Some time ago I learned about this project. It is basically a network of software defined radios listening to the RF spectrum and reporting back to a central database. I think it would be cool if every WISP could build one of these devices (cheap pi and RTL-SDR dongles) and place them on each of their tower sites. The project is bigger outside of the US so if the WISP industry could get a critical mass of sensors deployed, it could turn in to a real time spectrum use map and data tool. Matt Larsen has always pined about how the cellular carriers have been spectrum hoarding. A system like this could actually prove it. Imagine being able to map all the areas where there is absolutely nothing going on in the spectrum they hold! Being able to argue these points with real time data gathered over time could be huge. This might also allow organizations like WISPA to argue for more opportunist use of underutilized spectrum, especially in rural markets. The reality of the US spectrum policy has always been about what is needed in the top NFL cites. Remember that about 92% of the US population lives in only 8% of the land area. Let’s mobilize an effort to make better use of spectrum over the whole county. 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